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Windows 7 - pagefile & hyberfil |
04-23-2010
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#1 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
pagefile & hyberfil Just checked my system using windrstat and noticed my pagefile is 8 gig and the hyberfil is 6 gig. This system has 8 gigs of ram plus another 1 gig on the video card.
This seems like a huge amount in particularly the pagefile given the amount of ram installed. My question is can I safely reduce this to say 500 megs? The drive is a 1 terabyte and would fooling with either one of these be worth while?
Last edited by pasquanel; 04-23-2010 at 05:05 PM..
Reason: speeling
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU 3.30 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A79XTD EVO Rev X.0X Memory 8 gigs DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 Sound Card Intel onboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer 24" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Microsoft natural wireless 6000 series PSU 750 watt Cooling ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate 1 teabyte
Maxtor 500 gig
Seagate 750 gig |
04-23-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by pasquanel Just checked my system using windrstat and noticed my pagefile is 8 gig and the hyberfil is 6 gig. This system has 8 gigs of ram plus another 1 gig on the video card.
This seems like a huge amount in particularly the pagefile given the amount of ram installed. My question is can I safely reduce this to say 500 megs? The drive is a 1 terabyte and would fooling with either one of these be worth while?
You certainly can and should. Some people with boat loads of RAM dont even run a pagefile. I believe the system will be more stable with a small (500 mb) pagefile than without. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS WCP ONLY CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
04-23-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
It should be set at 1.5 times the amount of Ram. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
One is not connected Internet Speed DSL Other Info ATI HDMI Audio |
04-23-2010
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#4 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
The minimum page file is 16MB. But since you have the space, there would not really be a need to change it. Interestingly enough there are some programs (e.g. MSE) that generate page faults even when there are loads of available RAM (you can check that in Resource Monitor > Memory tab > Hard faults above). But 500MB should suffice.
The hibernation file you can get rid of if you do not use hibernation. Run powercfg -h off in elevated cmd. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
04-23-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee It should be set at 1.5 times the amount of Ram. This was true back when we all had only a small amount of RAM. Now days though, this rule doesn't apply IMO. If it did, my page file would be 12GB! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number tw33k OS Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 CPU Intel 3770k 4.7GHz Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty z77 Professional Memory 8GB (2x 4GB) G-Skill 16000CL9D (2000MHz) Graphics Card Gigabyte HD 6950 (unlocked 910/1375) Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 27" Acer B273HU (via HDMI) Screen Resolution 2048 x 1152 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair AX750 Gold Case Corsair Obsidian 800DW Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE 2x PH-F140 & UK 3000, 7x 120mm, 2x 140m Hard Drives Crucial C300 128GB
1TB Samsung F3 SATA
1TB WD Elite External Internet Speed 5mb/s Other Info Logitech z-2300 2.1 speakers
Lamptron FC-5 v2 |
04-23-2010
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#6 | | XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 |

Quote: Originally Posted by pasquanel Just checked my system using windrstat and noticed my pagefile is 8 gig and the hyberfil is 6 gig. This system has 8 gigs of ram plus another 1 gig on the video card.
This seems like a huge amount in particularly the pagefile given the amount of ram installed. My question is can I safely reduce this to say 500 megs? The drive is a 1 terabyte and would fooling with either one of these be worth while? The hibernation file is simple enough... as has already been explained.
The pagefile is a bit more complex... You have to consider your computer usage... If you are running monster apps you need to assess their requirements and adjust the page file sizes accordingly... Pagefile == MAX Requirement - RAM.
On most systems over 4gb of ram (6gb for x64) you can quite often simply turn off the page file altogether and get a performance boost in the bargain. I've got 2gb ram on x86 and run without a pagefile, no problem.
If you do use a page file, set the minimum and maximum sizes the same. This profoundly reduces the risk of pagefile fragmentation and reduces the system's need to continuously maintain the file... which does give a moderate performance boost. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebrew OS XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 CPU Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz) Motherboard Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Memory Kingston DDR2 800 2gb Graphics Card Nvidia GF-8400 Sound Card Realtek on Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer x-193bw Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard yes Mouse yes PSU 350watt In-Win Case In-Win Cooling Air Hard Drives Western Digital 500g Internet Speed 5mpbs Other Info Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP). |
04-24-2010
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#7 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
Well thank you all for the input and info! Interesting range of thought on this subject.
Just to satisfy my own curiosity I have turned off the page-file and so far so good but I may turn it back on
just to be on the safe side. I checked the WEI and there was no change there and I can't say I notice any appreciable increase in performance. So it may well be something I should leave alone! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU 3.30 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A79XTD EVO Rev X.0X Memory 8 gigs DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 Sound Card Intel onboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer 24" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Microsoft natural wireless 6000 series PSU 750 watt Cooling ASUS Silent Square CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate 1 teabyte
Maxtor 500 gig
Seagate 750 gig |
04-24-2010
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You can disable hibernate option and you can save the space used by hiberfil.sys file. Open an elevated cmd and type powercfg -h off | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel core 2 duo T 5550 @ 1.83 GHz Motherboard Intel 965 express mobile chipset Memory 3 GB DR 2 @ 667 MHz Graphics Card Onboard with approx 512 MB RAM Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15"4 inch widescreen Hard Drives 160 GB SATA WD. Internet Speed sucks |
04-24-2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Profession 64-bit |
Yeah, 1.5 x RAM is a fine rule of thumb for systems with 1Gb of RAM, or less. Now days, the best way to determine PF requirements is watch Task Manager and see what your system uses.
BUT - it rarely, if ever, does any harm having too big of a page file - ESPECIALLY if you let Windows manage it. And any performance boost gained by disabling the PF has NEVER been reproduced in a lab - meaning it is just perceived - the placebo effect (if you can find a "legitimate lab" test that says otherwise, please post).
If you think about it, the logic folks use to disable it (to force Windows and the CPU to use faster RAM instead of the slow hard disk) is flawed. Windows ALWAYS uses RAM for the highest priority data, then it shoves less important data to PF where it can easily find it, IF needed. Data stored in the PF is retrieved much faster than data left unread on the disk. This is because data stored in the PF is stored more efficiently than on a hard disk as a normal file, AND the OS knows exactly where it is - and does not have to rely on the disk controller as much to hunt down and connect all the fragments.
Also, since a Windows managed PF always yields space when the disk is crowded, reducing the PF to save disk space is not a valid arguement either - UNLESS the disk is very low on space, in which case, there will be other problems too, until a new disk is installed, or programs are uninstalled.
If you disable or minimize the pagefile, the OS will assign physical memory to programs that require virtual memory, and most do - then it will lock the RAM out from any actual use! That's not good! So keep pagefile turned on, and let Windows handle it. The exception is if you are very low on disk space, then my recommendation is to free up space.
Microsoft has been enabling PFs in Windows for over a decade - they have it figured out - leave it alone! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BrightWorks Systems B4 OS Windows 7 Profession 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7-860 Quad Motherboard Gigabyte P55-UD4P Memory Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800 Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb Sound Card Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22" Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050 Keyboard MS Wireless Comfort 5000 Mouse MS Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair TX-750W Case Ultra M998 Cooling OEM Hard Drives WD HE 1Tb Internet Speed Cable and pretty darn fast |
04-24-2010
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My take on the page file with a 1TB drive is as follows;
I have the same sort of setup. Box has 8GB of RAM, I have an 80GB SSD for my OS and a 1TB WD Caviar Black for my storage. I moved the page file off from C and put it on D. I left it at 1.5x the size of my RAM...so 12GB.
Do I really need that much?? Probably not.
Has my system with 8GB of RAM ever used the virtual memory? Yes.
Does it really hurt anything: Nope
With the fact that my 1TB drive was less than $100 and a 12GB page file is only about 1% of the formatted capacity, I simply don't worry about it. If my drive ever fills up, I'd be more likely to buy another drive than delete a single 12GB file if I'm nearly full | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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