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Windows 7: SSD - To Defrag or not to Defrag

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07 May 2009   #1

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 
SSD - To Defrag or not to Defrag

Following this thread and my own obsession with keeping a system drive tidy, I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with pros/cons of doing a defrag on SSD's. Plenty of sources claim this will kill the drive, shorten its life or even adversely affect performance. What's the verdict?

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07 May 2009   #2

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MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
 
 

Doesn't matter where on the SSD a file is, it still takes the same amount of time to retrive that file no matter where it is on the SSD, so why would you want to defrag and reduce the life of your SSD??
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07 May 2009   #3

Vista Ult64, Win7600
 
 

Hi Captain Zero, read this article and see if it will help.
http://www.sevenforums.com/news/6203...highlight=ssds
Thanks to johngalt
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07 May 2009   #4

windows 7 7600 x 64 16385
 
 

SSD drives do not have to access files from platters hence there is no need to defrag them. From articles that I have read, they all state that if you defrag an SSD drive you will shorten the life span of it.
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01 Jul 2009   #5

Vista
 
 

I use Diskeeper09 to defrag my drives (frankly, its the best program I have used) and they have Hyperfast (SSD optimizer ) as an add on offer to it. I dont own an SSD yet, but have read some material on SSD optimization on their site (IIRC there is a whitepaper on it). I suppose I cant post a link in here, you could check it out.
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01 Jul 2009   #6

windows 7
 
 

I have 1Tb hard disk, I have used about 50Gb of space. I would like to partition de disk, but trying to shrink it, it does not allow me to reduce it to 200Gb, it seems that some files are storage in the middle of the disk and does not allow me to reduce it less than 400Gb, although there is only 50Gb used.

After defrag the disk, I have the same problem. It seems that defrag does not regroup the files.

Is there any solution? Perhaps using another defrag tool? Does any one knows a good freware one?

Thanks in advance.
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01 Jul 2009   #7

Windows Vista x64 / Windows 7 7232 x64
 
 

Some system files can't be moved. Maybe that's the problem.
Try using another defrag tool which shows you the graph where the files are on the disk.
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01 Jul 2009   #8

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 
Defrag

Defrag is a catch 22. If you have plenty of space on your hard drive, most files will be written in contiguous space. Plus all of your frequently used system files were written in contiguous space when the OS install occured and need not be 'defragged'.

If you have limited space, then defragging will only temporarily give you relief from fragmentation and very soon files will begin to be written in non contiguous space.

The biggest problem with defrag is if you have power failure (or any other kind of failure for that matter) you have lost your drive. This is much too risky in my opinion and you are better of to get a bigger hard drive.
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01 Jul 2009   #9

Win7 x64 7127
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JeremyJukes View Post

The biggest problem with defrag is if you have power failure (or any other kind of failure for that matter) you have lost your drive. This is much too risky in my opinion and you are better of to get a bigger hard drive.
thats not true, windows copies the data first, then changes pointers to the data.
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27 Aug 2011   #10

Windows 7 64bit
 
 
Can't partition a partition

GEBLIN QUOTE " I have 1Tb hard disk, I have used about 50Gb of space. I would like to partition de disk, but trying to shrink it, it does not allow me to reduce it to 200Gb, it seems that some files are storage in the middle of the disk and does not allow me to reduce it less than 400Gb, although there is only 50Gb used.

After defrag the disk, I have the same problem. It seems that defrag does not regroup the files.

Is there any solution? Perhaps using another defrag tool? Does any one knows a good freware one?

Thanks in advance "

Yo Geblin, sounds like to me your C:\ drive (actually a partition) has allocated (taking up) the full 1TB of the drive... if this is the case then the C:\ has already allocated your full TB. Defraging will not solve this! You can't partition your drive any further unless you delete the C:\ partition (in windows 7 setup) and loose what ever is on it... Then re-install windows you have to choose "custom" then you can go in and create a new 2 new partitions. one for C:\ and one for D:\ . Each partition you create will ask you to determine the size. Choose 500gb for each or make 3 at 335each or 4 at 250 each... and so on and so forth.... get it ? ...

In short you can't partition a partition and since your C:\ drive (partition) is already taking up the full 1TB drive you have to delete that partition (and loose all your data unless you put it on another drive or removable media) and recreate it at 500gb then create a second partition at 500Gb (actually it will be more like 485 or 468 or 436 depending on if your drive has a 16mb, 32mb or 64mb cahce (pleas tell me you didn't buy a 8mb cache 1tb HD .. if you did sell your computer now and just buy an xbox lolz)

HOW TO PARTION AND SETUP WINDOWS 7 CORRECTLY READ BELOW

Yea, sorry bro.. you're in for some work if you want to copy all your data to another source.. delete the C:\partition in windows 7 CUSTOM OPTION setup, recreate 2 new partitions one C and one D at 500gb each or any additional partitions you want as long as all partitions combined do not exceed 1TB minus the size of your cache and the size of the windows restore partition. Then re-install windows and re-update, then IF YOU WANT TO DO IT PROPERLY, move all your documents and keep sakes (from the other drive, DVD, CD Memory stick etc) to the 2nd partition on the primary drive. Next go to C:\users and individually and seperately right click all the icons one at a time for my documents, pictures etc... For each one, select "move target" and select the new location on the D:\ partition. If you do it that way, any time you save something to My Documents, pictures etc, it will save on the D:\ partition and NOT in the defualt Windows location on NOT back on the C:\ drive which would put you right back at the same spot and make your partitioning effort worthless. Also, moving the target folder way will also update the library links in Windows Explore in folder view on the left side...

Yeah the whole point of partitioning is to keep your windows install (Defaulted to C:\drive) on a seperate partition from your data (usually defaulted D:\ drive) that way if windows ever gets hosed, you can just wipe the partition and re-install without loosing your data. Unless of course a catostrophic drive failure... then you're hosed.

LOTS OF WORK! BUT, the good news is, if you screw up the windows partition say from a corruption or an RTM with Remove.wat on it (hint hint not me wink wink ) that got sniffed out, you can just delete the format the C:\ partition and re-install windows without touching your data this time.
Good luck nooblet have fun.
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