| Windows 7: WEI - Is it worth the bother? |
16 Jul 2010
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#21 | | Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit) UK |
Yeah guys unless your hard drive is a SSD it will let your system down | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit) CPU Intel I5 2500K 3.3Ghz Stock Motherboard Asus P8H 61-M LE USB 3 Memory 8Gig Kingston DDRIII HyperX Blue 1333 Mhz Graphics Card Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 460 OC Sound Card Creative Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays 27" BENQ LED Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Some Logitech type. Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU 700W Coolermaster Stealth Pro etc Case Coolermaster Scout Cooling Some fans Hard Drives 1 x OCZ Agility 3 120GB SSD
1 x Seagate 250GB
1 x Toshiba 1000GB
1 x Western Digital 1000GB Internet Speed Wireless 8mb Other Info Canon Scanner
Epson Printer
Nikon DSLR 3000
Wacom Tablet |
16 Jul 2010
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#22 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate San Diego |
See I think that's the problem.
You don't buy to improve the score itself. I mean I don't even understand where that would even come from.
But if you want to buy a high performance system, the WEI will tell you if it has the stuff or not. A system with a HD score of 7.4 over one of 5.9 is a TREMENDOUS improvement in day to day performance, a 3d graphics score pof 3.0 or 7.9 is going to make a huge difference in how well it plays modern games. A lot of people (read 99.9% of all computer buyers) don't have time to research the intricasies of all the hardware. Nor can you install or run riva tuner on a machine at frys before buying it.
The WEI at-a-glance gives you a decent rank compared to other machines Windows 7 is installed on and IS something you can ususaly get to on a show floor.
As for a sales tool, I think that in most all cases the WEI is an anti-sales tool. I've virtually never seen it advertised because it puts the lie to the NORMAL sales talk. I.e. the WEI cuts through the BS ususaly associated with shadey elctronic equipment sales practices. Maybe Alienware or something uses it on the very top end systems but that's an abberation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7 |
16 Jul 2010
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#23 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 
Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Yeah, it's kind of a backscratch for the hardware community. I imagine tens of millions of dollars have been spent on HD, RAM, and video card updates by a lot of people who are feeling inferior due to their WEI--when they would never have upgraded a lick in the absence of the tool. Hmmm... I might need to get that SSD drive so my score can go up  
Quote: Originally Posted by whs An SSD will give you better than 7.0 - but I don't think you want to buy an SSD for that reason. There are better arguments for it. I was being sarcastic
Besides I can't justify the money for the capacity of the drives. And that's a debate for another thread | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
16 Jul 2010
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#24 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Quote: Besides I can't justify the money for the capacity of the drives A 30GB drive for $89 would be sufficient for Windows7. Mine has never exceeded 17GB used space. But that would give you the full speed benefits. Keep looking at Newegg - they have sales all the time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
16 Jul 2010
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#25 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |
Personally, $90 for a 30GB drive sounds horrible to me. I could buy a new 80GB WD 5200rpm drive from newegg for $35. I have no doubt that it would speed things up a bit, but I think I'll wait. I know its not a fad, or something that will be replaced with something better soon. I just figure I can wait a couple more years, then buy a new laptop with one already installed and probably Windows 8. By then they will probably cost what HDDs cost a couple years ago.
EDIT: 100th post! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
1TB Seagate FreeAgent External Internet Speed Verizon DSL Speed(Down/Up): 3360 Kbps / 800 Kbps Antivirus MSE and MBAM Pro Browser IE10 RP |
16 Jul 2010
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#26 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit Orlando, Florida |

Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 Personally, $90 for a 30GB drive sounds horrible to me. I could buy a new 80GB WD 5200rpm drive from newegg for $35. I have no doubt that it would speed things up a bit, but I think I'll wait. I know its not a fad, or something that will be replaced with something better soon. I just figure I can wait a couple more years, then buy a new laptop with one already installed and probably Windows 8. By then they will probably cost what HDDs cost a couple years ago.
EDIT: 100th post! Congratulations! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB Internet Speed 3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload |
16 Jul 2010
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#27 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Quote: Besides I can't justify the money for the capacity of the drives A 30GB drive for $89 would be sufficient for Windows7. Mine has never exceeded 17GB used space. But that would give you the full speed benefits. Keep looking at Newegg - they have sales all the time. That's my point.... $90 for a 30GB drive. Not worth it to me. If I can't get at least a pair of 120's, I don't want it. And a 120GB is expensive!!!
Anyway that the way I see it.
Peace | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
16 Jul 2010
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#28 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
Thing about SSDs are they really arent meant for storage. In fact, do not really provide a great benefit for music,video collections anyway etc.
However, when it comes to the OS itself and all your apps, 40ish GB is more than enough. And , it does make a HUGE differnce in the responsiveness of everything.
Thats even if you use a spinning drive for games, they still load quicker oddly.
IMHO, 40GB SSD is totally worth the $100. Its a night and day difference in the way the system performs and responds.
And, the most noticeable upgrade I know of ATM.
I had a Vertex that was defective and had to send it in for a RMA.
After i re-imaged back to my 640GB WD HD,
Believe me, it was immediately apparent how much difference there truly was.
The entired system slowed down dramatically.
I ended up picking up a 40GB Intel while the OCZ was out for RMA.
So yes, the size seems to be an issue, but for the OS and apps its more than enough. This is where it will make the greatest difference anyway. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
16 Jul 2010
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#29 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit |
Yup that's what I was thinking too, SSD's should only be used for OS and programs installations.
Either way I still need 120GB for my OS and programs and @ $300+ a piece, I think I'll past for now and wait for prices to drop or for hybrid SSD desktop hard drives to hit the market. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit CPU Intel i5-2520M Memory Corsair 8GB DDR3-1600 Graphics Card AMD HD-6850M Sound Card Realtek Dolby Advanced HD Screen Resolution 1600x900 Mouse Logitech M510 | Logitech G400 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB | Hitachi Travelstar 750GB Internet Speed 35 Mbps |
17 Jul 2010
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#30 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
I think there was a misunderstanding regarding my proposed 30GB SSD for $89. That is a solution for a desktop with additional HDDs for the data. The improved speed for the OS on a SSD is very significant.
If you are talking about a laptop, you are not in the market for a SSD (unless you have one of those new HP 17" with 2 bays). SSDs with large capacity are still too expensive. But with a laptop, you are limited regarding performance anyhow. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 WEI - Is it worth the bother? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:37 AM. | |