is GTS 450 compatible with Dell Optiplex 780

just as the title says .
i just want to know if nvidia geforce gts 450 is compatible w/ my dell optiplex 780

here are the specifications of my desktop.

MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 @ 2.93GHz

2.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 532MHz
Manufacturer Kingston
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Type DDR3
Size 2048 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 532.6 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 7 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 7 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 20 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 1T


DELL E1910 @ 1440x900
Intel(R) Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)
Intel(R) Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)
313GB Seagate ST3320418AS (SATA)
SoundMAX Integrated Digital High Definition Audio

Monitor
Name DELL E1910 on Intel Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)
Current Resolution 1440x900 pixels
Work Resolution 1440x860 pixels
State enabled, primary, output devices support
Monitor Width 1440
Monitor Height 900
Monitor BPP 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Frequency 75 Hz
Device \\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0


i dont know anything about computers, so i just copied the specifications of my desktop using speccy ..

thanks .

The power supply is the problem. Only 255W in the desk top version. The GTS450 needs one 6 pin power cable and it is very unlikely your PSU has one.

OptiPlex 780 Desktop Details | Dell

Hopalong X said:

The power supply is the problem. Only 255W in the desk top version. The GTS450 needs one 6 pin power cable and it is very unlikely your PSU has one.

OptiPlex 780 Desktop Details | Dell

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Not only the PSU problem the GTS450 is a BIG unit and takes an PCI e16 slot plus the one next to it. It may not fit.

ken9122 said:

Hopalong X said:

The power supply is the problem. Only 255W in the desk top version. The GTS450 needs one 6 pin power cable and it is very unlikely your PSU has one.

OptiPlex 780 Desktop Details | Dell

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Not only the PSU problem the GTS450 is a BIG unit and takes an PCI e16 slot plus the one next to it. It may not fit.

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thanks for answering my question .. can u please help me choose a graphic card (NVIDIA) for my desktop ?

A few questions for you before we can do that,

1. What size is the case? If it is anything other than the first one as shown in the link Hopalong posted, then you are looking at low profile cards only. The 450 you were asking about is available in low profile,

Newegg.com - Palit NE5S4500F0601 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

but you would still need a new power supply.

2. What is the primary use of the card going to be? Gaming, office use, HTPC, etc?

3. Nvidia only or is a card from AMD OK?

stormy13 said:

A few questions for you before we can do that,

1. What size is the case? If it is anything other than the first one as shown in the link Hopalong posted, then you are looking at low profile cards only. The 450 you were asking about is available in low profile,

Newegg.com - Palit NE5S4500F0601 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

but you would still need a new power supply.

2. What is the primary use of the card going to be? Gaming, office use, HTPC, etc?

3. Nvidia only or is a card from AMD OK?

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..is this the size of the case ? ~

1)Mini-Tower:

Dimensions(H x W x D) Inches/(cm): 16.1 x 7.4 x 17.0 / (40.8 x 18.7 x 43.3)

Weight (lbs/kg): 25.8 / 11.7

Number of Bays:

2 internal 3.5"
1 external 3.5"
2 external 5.25"

Expansion Slots:

1 full height PCIe x16
1 full height PCIe x1
2 full height PCI

DIMM Slots: 4

2) For gaming
3) i'd prefer nvidia ..

Yours look like this on the inside,



If so you may run into a problem with most of the new(er) cards as they are pretty much all dual slot cards (second slot covered but not used, by the heatsink and fan on the card), and from looking at that picture there is a good possibility that the card and/or the heatsink on it will be bumping into the fan shroud on the CPU; if that shroud isn't outright in the way. Also there is one other small problem with that case, you can't put a dual slot card in it as there is only one slot/bracket in the back panel for a card, which means single slot cards only.

Also as mentioned previously you will need a new power supply for any cards made today that require an extra power connection from the PSU. here are the full specs for the PSU's that come with the 780,



and based on the specs of them I'm not sure I would even try running a card that doesn't require the extra connection.

Also what games are you looking to play?

stormy13 said:

A few questions for you before we can do that,

1. What size is the case? If it is anything other than the first one as shown in the link Hopalong posted, then you are looking at low profile cards only. The 450 you were asking about is available in low profile,

Newegg.com - Palit NE5S4500F0601 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

but you would still need a new power supply.

2. What is the primary use of the card going to be? Gaming, office use, HTPC, etc?

3. Nvidia only or is a card from AMD OK?

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LOL! How cute is that hahahahaha.

That's probably the smallest dedicated video card I've seen.

Sad thing is even if he had the power supply to run that card, he couldn't install it in the case due to the PCI-E slot location and lack of mounting slots in the back panel.

Dell has a list of recommended graphics cards for an Optiplex 780 Mini Tower:

Graphics Cards : Parts & Upgrades | Dell

They're pretty much low-end cards. At a guess, the ATI Radeon 4670 may be the most powerful card listed. It seems like it would want a larger power supply than on the 780, but Dell lists it as compatible. (Seems like it should work. The max power for a card without auxiliary power connectors is 75W.)

I purchased and shipped a GT220 to member no longer on here and he seems to like how it preformed. So If your stuck on Nvidia I would recommend it based on his reviews on using it for not only gaming (mostly GTAIV) but photoshop and other GFX applications. It can be found on the Dell link.

But then XFX makes a single slot 5550 card but still requires a minimum 400w psu and no 6pin connector required it's pretty compact yet the shroud could still be a problem. Newegg.com - XFX HD-555X-ZNF2 Radeon HD 5550 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

You can also buy low profile bracket combos but after doing some searching I couldn't find a bracket combo that would work on any of the cards.

Newegg also offers a 5450 low profile card without a fan so it would fit but It didn't list the minimum power supply which I would presume to be 400w also Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100292L Radeon HD 5450 (Cedar) 1GB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card

Unfortunately these are the problems commonly found when trying to upgrade an OEM system. Most make it so your stuck going back to them to get any kind of upgrade.
Fabe

stormy13 said:

Yours look like this on the inside,

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If so you may run into a problem with most of the new(er) cards as they are pretty much all dual slot cards (second slot covered but not used, by the heatsink and fan on the card), and from looking at that picture there is a good possibility that the card and/or the heatsink on it will be bumping into the fan shroud on the CPU; if that shroud isn't outright in the way. Also there is one other small problem with that case, you can't put a dual slot card in it as there is only one slot/bracket in the back panel for a card, which means single slot cards only.

Also as mentioned previously you will need a new power supply for any cards made today that require an extra power connection from the PSU. here are the full specs for the PSU's that come with the 780,

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and based on the specs of them I'm not sure I would even try running a card that doesn't require the extra connection.

Also what games are you looking to play?

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just some online games like lord of the rings , vindictus...
how about nvidia geforce gt 240 ?
oh , please tell me it's compatible...

zanycris said:

just some online games like lord of the rings , vindictus...
how about nvidia geforce gt 240 ?
oh , please tell me it's compatible...

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1. you need a 1 slot PCIe card
2. it needs to be low profile
3. it cannot exceed 75w power consumption (unless you are willing to upgrade the PSU)

Joshatdot said:

zanycris said:

just some online games like lord of the rings , vindictus...
how about nvidia geforce gt 240 ?
oh , please tell me it's compatible...

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1. you need a 1 slot PCIe card
2. it needs to be low profile
3. it cannot exceed 75w power consumption (unless you are willing to upgrade the PSU)

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as much as possible i don't want to upgrade anything else aside from the graphics card...
guess i'll just go with gt 220

wait .. you have the mini tower right? I think you can use a full height card .. but the CPU heatsink & shroud could be a issue

Joshatdot said:

wait .. you have the mini tower right? I think you can use a full height card .. but the CPU heatsink & shroud could be a issue

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are we talking about gt 240 ??

according here : http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/optiplex-780-tech-guide.pdf

Minitower supports full height card..

and here : Graphics Cards : Parts & Upgrades | Dell

it shows the compatible nvidia graphic cards..and GT 220 is listed here..

GeForce GT 220

Standard Graphics Card Dimensions:
Height 4.376 inches
Length 6.6 inches
Width Single-slot

GeForce GT 240

Standard Graphics Card Dimensions:
Height 4.376 inches (111 mm)
Length 6.6 inches (168mm)
Width Single-slot

they have the same dimensions....

Yes same dimensions .. but that does not say how thick the GPU heatsink & fan are.

Here are two GT 240s, one is a proper single slot, and there other is not.

You cannot use the:
Newegg.com - Palit NE5S4500F0601 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

In the 780 you don't have the empty case slot next to the PCIe slot for the Video Card.

I put this card (link below) in a Dell 780 and it works perfectly. You will have to replace the power supply. Note: you will need to modify your case for the non-OEM power supply, so you need to be aware of that before you start.

Amazon.com: XFX Radeon HD 5770 1 GB GDDR5/PCI-Express 2.0/CrossFireX Ready/Dual DVI/Mini Display Port Video Card HD577XZMF3: Electronics

Note: you will need to modify your case for the non-OEM power supply, so you need to be aware of that before you start

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This is exactly what I was referring to about OEM systems and how they make it hard to upgrade their systems without buying from them. Things like boards made just for them to case configurations and even non standardized power supplies. Severely limit your choices.

Which by the time your ready for a new system you should get comfortable enough with the internal workings to build your own.
Hopefully though this time you'll find a suitable suggestion from all the posts above.
Fabe

can u suggest any nvidia graphics card ?

*I don't have plans on changing or replacing my PSU and computer case