IE 8 & 9 crash when opening a new tab

Kari

An Angry Old Man
I've been testing IE 9 Beta, like it very much. A few days ago, after a restart, it started to act strange.

As long as I only have one tab open, it behaves normally. All menus work, can go back to last page, write addresses on address bar i.e. totally normal behavior. Only noticeable change is that when links earlier opened in a new tab, they now open in a new window. I can still open a link in a new tab from right click context menu. I can also close IE normally as long I only have one tab.

But if I click the new tab button, I'm screwed ;) After that, I can still surf the first tab I had open, click links on that page and so on, but all menus, favorite bar and address bar are disabled. Also back and next buttons are disabled, I can only go back to the last page from context menu. Close, minimize and maximize/restore buttons are disabled. Right clicking IE in Taskbar and choosing Close only gives audio signal, one beep. Only way to close is from Task Manager, where at this point always is at least four or five iexplore processes. Ending processes one by one causes IE to show "This tab has been recovered" message, and after the last process is ended the IE finally closes.

What I have tried:
- reset IE9, no effect
- sfc /scannow, no effect
- uninstall IE9, return to IE8 > the issue stays
- run sfc /scannow after reverting to IE8, no effect
- reinstall IE9, the problem's still there

Please, all ideas welcome.

Kari
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
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Not sure where to even start...
did you get this update initially?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel i5-2500k
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ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/GEN3
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16GB
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2x Radeon HD7970 Crossfire
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I do not see that update on my update history.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
So what's the overall goal here?...

Figure out how things borked?
Get 8 back to proper form?
Get 9 back to proper form?
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/GEN3
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
2x Radeon HD7970 Crossfire
Sound Card
On-Board / Logitech G930
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Dell u2412m
Screen Resolution
5760x1200
Hard Drives
Toshiba thns064gg2bbaa SSD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB
Intel RST SSD caching enabled
PSU
Corsair AX850
Case
Corsair Obsidian 650D
Cooling
Corsair H100
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech M510 Wireless
Internet Speed
1Mb/s
Get either IE8 or IE9 to work. At the moment they are unusable because limited only to one tab.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
If I read right, you have 9 back on? Want to see if that update does anything for stability?

If it doesn't, only thing I could try would be to remove both 9 and 8 and, reinstall 8. I'll keep pokin around for something.

edit:
have you tried running either in no-addon mode?
anything in event viewer for appcrash?
 

My Computer

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Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/GEN3
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
2x Radeon HD7970 Crossfire
Sound Card
On-Board / Logitech G930
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Dell u2412m
Screen Resolution
5760x1200
Hard Drives
Toshiba thns064gg2bbaa SSD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB
Intel RST SSD caching enabled
PSU
Corsair AX850
Case
Corsair Obsidian 650D
Cooling
Corsair H100
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech M510 Wireless
Internet Speed
1Mb/s
The issue exists also when running without add-ons. No IE related entries in Event Viewer. At the moment back in IE8, not reinstalled IE9.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
Does it repro if you add the following registry value (for testing - not meant to be left around, of course):
Key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
Value: TabProcGrowth
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64
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Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.5GHz
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Asus Maximus Hero VII
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32GB DDR3
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Nvidia GeForce GTX970
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Realtek HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 250GB SSD
4x WD RE 2TB (RAIDZ)
PSU
Corsair AX760i
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
Does it repro if you add the following registry value (for testing - not meant to be left around, of course):
Key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
Value: TabProcGrowth
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Yes. Issue remains, behavior as before.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
OK, so it's not a process issue (TabProcGrowth puts the frame process and any windows or tabs all in the same process, versus process per tab or security zone). That really only leaves registration on hlink/actxprxy/ieframe that could be the culprit. Assuming you've already run a reset on all IE settings, you probably want to run regsvr32 on hlink.dll, actxprxy.dll, and regsvr32 /i /n ieframe.dll to see if it perhaps changes the behavior.
 

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Asus Maximus Hero VII
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32GB DDR3
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Nvidia GeForce GTX970
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Realtek HD Audio
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1920x1200
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1x Samsung 250GB SSD
4x WD RE 2TB (RAIDZ)
PSU
Corsair AX760i
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Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
Done all of that. No luck.

EDIT: My upload bandwidth is reserved at the moment because of a large upload job. In about an hour when it's done, I'll add an explaining video here.

EDIT 2: OK, video uploaded. Short explanation: as you can see, simply nothing works after clicking the new tab button.

 
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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
I wonder if dump files can be created?

Try creating this key:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\LocalDumps\iexplore.exe

In the iexplore.exe key, create a REG_EXPAND_SZ value named DumpFolder and set the data for the value to %systemdrive%\iedumps . You need to make sure the %systemdrive%\iedumps folder actually exists. Hopefully, there may be a dump file in %systemdrive%\iedumps.

Also, wonder whether this may be related to win7 sp1 beta? I think you mentioned somewhere, you're using the beta.
 

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Too many to describe...
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Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
No, I've not installed SP.

Created the key as you suggested. It was 30 minutes ago and tested IE. It crashed, as before but this time computer went crazy, HD has been constantly spinning since that, desktop is completely frozen, can do nothing. Posting from another computer, at this moment it's about 35 minutes already,

Kari
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
Sorry to hear that. Looks like it may be part of a bigger problem. Unless its creating a large dump file. :shock:
 

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Too many to describe...
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Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
But it's just IE. Everything else works fine, this is one good laptop if I may say so (about the same than in my system specs, only i5 processor). I am not willing to reinstall because of this, nor can I restore an image because (of course just now!) my last image is almost three weeks old and there's been major installing and updating since that. That's so typical! Normally I create an image every weekend.

The lockup I mentioned in my last post took finally about 40 minutes, then HD stopped spinning, but desktop stayed frozen. No dump was created, Event Viewer has nothing. Hard reset and I'm back.

Normally I'm using Lunascape browser with Trident engine (you can choose in Lunascape between Trident, WebKit and Gecko, global or for every tab different), so I'm good. I just wonder what can cause this. I can use IE, both 8 & 9, completely normally as long as I don't press new tab button. I can open new tab by right clicking a link, and switch between tabs. Everything works 100% as long as I do not click new tab button :)

New ideas welcome...

Kari
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
You can always install the debugging tools for windows (32bit, as IE on x64 is still 32bit), then run adplus against a running IE instance to dump it when it crashes - make sure the TabProcGrowth value I mentioned earlier in this thread is still set to 0 in the registry for this test:
  1. Create the directory C:\adplus
  2. Open IE
  3. Open an elevated cmd prompt
  4. Change directory to where the 32bit debugging tools are installed - usually "C:\Program Files\Debugging Tools for Windows" (substitute "Program Files (x86)" for x64 versions of Windows, of course)
  5. Execute the following command: "cscript adplus.vbs -crash -pn iexplore.exe -quiet -o C:\adplus)"
  6. Cause IE to crash - this should cause at least one (maybe more) .dmp files to be created in a subfolder of C:\adplus
If you get 2nd chance .dmp files (they'll say 2nd chance in their name) after IE crashes and closes, those are what we'd want to see (note the command in step 5 will generate a symbol path warning - this can be ignored).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
Asus Maximus Hero VII
Memory
32GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX970
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 250GB SSD
4x WD RE 2TB (RAIDZ)
PSU
Corsair AX760i
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
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