LGA 1366 or LGA 2011 or LGA 1155

Sp3c5 · Mar 12, 2011

I'm not sure where to post this as there is no specific hardware talk forum without involving Windows 7.

What's bugging me right now is the release of Intels new LGA1155 and it's future LGA2011 with and X68 chipset.

LGA1366 is defnitly the way to go if you are an enthusiast. TRI-SLI (X58 chipset x16, x16, x4 PCIe 2.0), supurb overclocking features and alot of harcore motherboards! Alot of resources on the web. Not to mention Intel and nVidia finally agreed upon having SLI capabilities on Intels chipset now giving you the choice between SLI and CF! Big step in gaming!

On the other hand, LGA 1155 supports the new iCore7 Sandy Bridge 2600K cpu. They are amazing to overclock (5Ghz easy!) and perform extremely well due to it's new microarchitecture! Most motherboards are reasonable but the P67 Chipset does not support full 2x16 PCIe 2.0. Not ideal for SLI or CF but one 570GTX or more would definitely be more then enough to run todays games and very high settings. Also to note ,some boards have a faulty Southbridge regarding SATA IIRC! Don't forget native USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0Gb/sec capabilities!

Now for the overkill! There are no dates yet, but most people presume LGA 2011 is going to be a desktop board sporting the new X68 chipset of which details have not yet been released. Who knows, this board might supply full 3x16 PCEi 3.0! Blazing fast, super effeicent CPUS! Most likely going to be Intels Ivy Bridge made with Intels 22nm process combined with Quad-Channel DDR3 RAM!

So do I,

Optn 1: Go for the LGA 1366, upgrade in the future with pure RAW power to get up to date (SLI 580GTX and fastest RAM in the future to keep my game up).

Optn 2: Go for the LGA 1155 with the crazy 2600K CPU and a nice 580GTX and coast smootly for the next couple of years not being able to upgrade as much down the line since it uses a P67 chipset? A pretty new but already old LGA 1155 design that IMO want be going for very long if they have there eyes set on LGA 2011 already. The mainstream chipset is what bugs me the most! ;(

Optn 3: Wait and pray for LGA 2011, X68 chipset, 22nm CPUs and crazy retarded GFX with Quad-Channel DDR3 that will future proof me for years to come!

What do guys??

pparks1 · Mar 12, 2011

As a moderate gamer, I think that SLI is overrated, so it's always 1 video card for me. I don't really like to wait and purchase what's coming around the corner, but would rather use what I know is here and now. Without a doubt, if I assembled another personal machines today, it would be a socket 1155 with a Sandy Bridge CPU.

Sp3c5 · Mar 12, 2011

pparks1 said:
As a moderate gamer, I think that SLI is overrated, so it's always 1 video card for me. I don't really like to wait and purchase what's coming around the corner, but would rather use what I know is here and now. Without a doubt, if I assembled another personal machines today, it would be a socket 1155 with a Sandy Bridge CPU.

Thanks for the input. Although I fell like, and most likely, 1366 and 1155 are coming to an end. I just hope that LGA 2011 will be like LGA 775 in a way that it was great and lasted for a long time! (Pentium 4 Prescott, Pentium D Presler, Pentium Dual-Core Conroe, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad etc.) It had huge support and was a good future proof! It already been 5 years! You could still easily manage to get a great gaming experience with a Core 2 Quad Oced to 4Ghz and it still gets support from the latest and greatest GFX Card along with DDR3. I hoping LGA 2011 will be that turning point that will ensure future upgrade capabilities like the LGA 775.

pparks1 · Mar 12, 2011

I've been through way too many Intel sockets to even concern myself anymore with upgradeability. And that doesn't bother me at all, because I have NEVER upgraded a CPU on a motherboard. Every new CPU came with a new mobo, new ram, new case, new power supply, new video card, etc. I think buying anything these days with the intention of upgrading down the road is a fools errand, at best.

Sp3c5 · Mar 12, 2011

Honestly, the first ever complete system I had ever had from a one big buy was a Pentium3. And I have always upgraded from that! Change the mobo and cpu, but keep the RAM, PSU and HDD w/ CD drives. Then upgrade those, then go back to upgrading to mobo and CPU. Now put a GFX, now change the CPU, add more RAM etc. And I have always continued to upgrade slowly! Believe it or not, everything I have know is in the same SAME PC tower from the P3, crazy eh? Long live ATX form factor.

essenbe · Mar 12, 2011

Well, I can tell you are apparently an Intel person, but don't leave out the new AMD chip that is supposed to be released soon. While few really know, it is said to be 50% faster than the current AMD X6 chips and at least 25% faster than the current i7's. I am in the same boat as you. But if AMD doesn't put the release off too long, I would like to see what they bring to the table. I'm not a fanboy of either side, I just want the best peformance for my money.

Darician · Mar 12, 2011

The way I understand it and have read it is that LGA 1366 will be phased out in favor of LGA 2011 as the high-end/server/enthusiast CPU socket of choice. LGA 1155 is supposed to be replacing both LGA 1156 and finally allowing the full phase out of LGA 775. LGA 1155 is supposed to be here for a while side by side with LGA 2011 as the budget and mainstream CPU socket choice.

In terms of waiting though, you can wait forever if you want to be ahead because you'll never be up to date for very long. If you really want to upgrade right now and don't care about some of the limitations, I'd pick up an LGA 1155 motherboard with a Sandy Bridge CPU. If however you want to have full unlocked everything and a very powerful CPU, I'd wait for Ivy Bridge unless you really have a need to upgrade right now, in which case 1366 would be the way to go.

Sp3c5 · Mar 12, 2011

essenbe said:
Well, I can tell you are apparently an Intel person.

You would assume correct. Going to a whole other family tree of CPUs is like learning a new language. You won't understand much until you really spend time reading a lot of stuff since it differs from what you currently know. Overclocking would be the biggest learning curve. Don't me wrong, I'm well rounded when it comes to tech knowledge. Bulldozers seems to amazing but AMD and ATI never seem to have that "edge". ATI having a Dual GPU card to be branded fastest GFX card is more of a cheap cheat then an advancement :/

Darician said:
The way I understand it and have read it is that LGA 1366 will be phased out in favor of LGA 2011 as the high-end/server/enthusiast CPU socket of choice. LGA 1155 is supposed to be replacing both LGA 1156 and finally allowing the full phase out of LGA 775. LGA 1155 is supposed to be here for a while side by side with LGA 2011 as the budget and mainstream CPU socket choice.

In terms of waiting though, you can wait forever if you want to be ahead because you'll never be up to date for very long. If you really want to upgrade right now and don't care about some of the limitations, I'd pick up an LGA 1155 motherboard with a Sandy Bridge CPU. If however you want to have full unlocked everything and a very powerful CPU, I'd wait for Ivy Bridge unless you really have a need to upgrade right now, in which case 1366 would be the way to go.

True about LGA 1155. What I should of said was that 1155 maybe the new high tech at this moment, but will be ruled out shortly by the appearance of LGA 2011 taking the tech leap. I want to upgrade to be on pare with the tech, not to upgrade while still renaming 2 generations behind. If that made sense.

And thats the other reason, I don't have to upgrade now, it's not a priority. Upgrading CAMs on my car is one though

Just that a tech upgrade is well needed also

I just feel stuck in the middle ;(

pparks1 · Mar 12, 2011

essenbe said:
Well, I can tell you are apparently an Intel person, but don't leave out the new AMD chip that is supposed to be released soon. While few really know, it is said to be 50% faster than the current AMD X6 chips and at least 25% faster than the current i7's. I am in the same boat as you. But if AMD doesn't put the release off too long, I would like to see what they bring to the table. I'm not a fanboy of either side, I just want the best peformance for my money.

My understanding was that the new AMD chips were supposed to be 50% faster than current offerings, but only matching what Intel already has available. I've never hear that it's going to be 25% faster.

johnwillyums · Mar 12, 2011

I faced the same dilemma about 14 months ago and went the 1366 route with an i7. Now I hear that there may be another batch of chips at the end of the year but that the socket is going to be phased out.
I thought I was pretty future proof but evidently not.
If I had about £500 to throw around I'd get a LG 1155 mobo and a Sandybridge CPU.
But it would be just throwing it around because I don't feel the need to upgrade. Nothing is frustrating me about the rig I have.
I reckon that this time next year I might start finding the need but I agree with Darician earlier. There is never a right time to upgrade so you might as well go for the best bang for your buck now

Sp3c5 · Mar 12, 2011

johnwillyums said:
I agree with Darician earlier. There is never a right time to upgrade so you might as well go for the best bang for your buck now

Ye but I really sucks when you know in about 6 months and most likely less, you will get phased out

A year+ fine. A couple of months, BIG bummer.

johnwillyums · Mar 12, 2011

Fair point yeah

. I suppose I'm lucky to have got a couple of year or more out of the 1366. When's the 2011 supposed to appear.

Sp3c5 · Mar 12, 2011

johnwillyums said:
Fair point yeah. I suppose I'm lucky to have got a couple of year or more out of the 1366. When's the 2011 supposed to appear.

The boards are pretty much set! Pics of a MSI boards has been leaked. 2011 pinout is crazy looking! Altough all this and Intel has not yet said a thing about X68. We are pretty much waiting on that I imagine. 3-4 months I am giving.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/76-motherboards/42071-msi-lga2011-motherboard-caught-on-camera.html

johnwillyums · Mar 12, 2011

I just read your first post again. I think you know what your gonna do

I'll bet, that in three months time, there'll be rumours of something mindblowing coming next year.

Sp3c5 · Mar 12, 2011

johnwillyums said:
I just read your first post again. I think you know what your gonna do
I'll bet, that in three months time, there'll be rumours of something mindblowing coming next year.

This is why I am hoping for another "LGA 775 repeat"

johnwillyums · Mar 12, 2011

Things seem to be speeding up before our very eyes. Browsers get updated nightly, new graphics technology comes along every couple of months, we're up to our knees in chips and linux is taking over the mobile device market.
There will soon be four different LGA sockets on the market at the same time. There may never be another LGA 775 socket in terms of longevity. Is there a roadmap for the 2011 socket?

I shall be interested to see what happens to Nvidia. Surely the integration of a GPU on the CPU will do away with the need for low end and even middle range discrete graphics cards.
Nvidia only have their cards and, perhaps, the Tegra chip.
The market for top end gaming cards is not sufficient to sustain them and/or keep up with the competition, which has other strings to it's bow.

Zepher · Mar 12, 2011

From what I have been reading, the first cpu for the LGA2011 will be an Extreme version costing around $1000-$1300.

SlackerITGuy · Mar 12, 2011

Sp3c5 said:
I'm not sure where to post this as there is no specific hardware talk forum without involving Windows 7.

What's bugging me right now is the release of Intels new LGA1155 and it's future LGA2011 with and X68 chipset.

LGA1366 is defnitly the way to go if you are an enthusiast. TRI-SLI (X58 chipset x16, x16, x4 PCIe 2.0), supurb overclocking features and alot of harcore motherboards! Alot of resources on the web. Not to mention Intel and nVidia finally agreed upon having SLI capabilities on Intels chipset now giving you the choice between SLI and CF! Big step in gaming!

On the other hand, LGA 1155 supports the new iCore7 Sandy Bridge 2600K cpu. They are amazing to overclock (5Ghz easy!) and perform extremely well due to it's new microarchitecture! Most motherboards are reasonable but the P67 Chipset does not support full 2x16 PCIe 2.0. Not ideal for SLI or CF but one 570GTX or more would definitely be more then enough to run todays games and very high settings. Also to note ,some boards have a faulty Southbridge regarding SATA IIRC! Don't forget native USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0Gb/sec capabilities!

Now for the overkill! There are no dates yet, but most people presume LGA 2011 is going to be a desktop board sporting the new X68 chipset of which details have not yet been released. Who knows, this board might supply full 3x16 PCEi 3.0! Blazing fast, super effeicent CPUS! Most likely going to be Intels Ivy Bridge made with Intels 22nm process combined with Quad-Channel DDR3 RAM!

So do I,

Optn 1: Go for the LGA 1366, upgrade in the future with pure RAW power to get up to date (SLI 580GTX and fastest RAM in the future to keep my game up).

Optn 2: Go for the LGA 1155 with the crazy 2600K CPU and a nice 580GTX and coast smootly for the next couple of years not being able to upgrade as much down the line since it uses a P67 chipset? A pretty new but already old LGA 1155 design that IMO want be going for very long if they have there eyes set on LGA 2011 already. The mainstream chipset is what bugs me the most! ;(

Optn 3: Wait and pray for LGA 2011, X68 chipset, 22nm CPUs and crazy retarded GFX with Quad-Channel DDR3 that will future proof me for years to come!

What do guys??

I'd go for LGA 1155.

Why?

You won't have to wait for LGA 2011, might take a while, Q4 2011, maybe even 2012.
CPU's are crazy fast, per clock performance up to around ~5% vs 1st generation Core i5/i7 CPUs.
Ivy Bridge CPUs will be LGA 1155 compatible.
OC potential through the roof.

Darician · Mar 13, 2011

johnwillyums said:
Things seem to be speeding up before our very eyes. Browsers get updated nightly, new graphics technology comes along every couple of months, we're up to our knees in chips and linux is taking over the mobile device market.
There will soon be four different LGA sockets on the market at the same time. There may never be another LGA 775 socket in terms of longevity. Is there a roadmap for the 2011 socket?

I shall be interested to see what happens to Nvidia. Surely the integration of a GPU on the CPU will do away with the need for low end and even middle range discrete graphics cards.
Nvidia only have their cards and, perhaps, the Tegra chip.
The market for top end gaming cards is not sufficient to sustain them and/or keep up with the competition, which has other strings to it's bow.

LGA 775 is like the Windows XP of sockets lasting a long time. It is said though that LGA 1155 is supposed to last a few years as well. LGA 2011 is supposed to be the high-end socket that will be side by side with LGA 1155 much like LGA 1156/1366 shared space for a bit.

And in terms of the GPU, that'll be interesting to see because as much noise as is made about high-end cards, their bread and butter are the low to midrange market. Then again, software may start pushing the boundaries requiring more and more powerful cards. Definitely interesting to watch.

smarteyeball · Mar 13, 2011

SlackerITGuy said:
I'd go for LGA 1155.

Why?

You won't have to wait for LGA 2011, might take a while, Q4 2011, maybe even 2012.

I'd wager that Q1 2012 is more likely for all the board manufacturers to have their offerings available. Even then prices are going to at a premium for a while after that.

CPU's are crazy fast, per clock performance up to around ~5% vs 1st generation Core i5/i7 CPUs.

That they are.

OC potential through the roof.

I suspect that 2011 chips will be just as good in that area.

The only real limitation is the lack of hex/octo core chips and the x8/x8 limitation of the P67 chipset and even then the performance hit isn't really that bad.

Personally I can afford to wait until the 2011 socket is released because I'm already on 1366 - but if I were to go from 775 today, it would be to 1155 and not 1366.

Buy a 'cheaper' 1155 board, a 2500k or 2600k and decent GPU and you can afford to coast along quite happily until the inevitable board/chip revisions of 2011 come along. By that time, the next gen of GPU's will hopefully be around the corner and then you can go hog wild with a kick ass overkill rig

Either way you go, both sockets, 1155 or 1366, are still going to deliver good performance for quite a while yet.

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