Cars have ignition keys...why can't computers?

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ok, so I have wanted to make a wooden case for my computer for quite a while. i might get the stuff in and do it...

what i was thinking was to get two more power supplies in (yes, a PC with THREE power supplies) and get it starting up on an ignition chamber (thats found in cars).

car-key.jpg


am I mad? should I do it?

EDIT

Maybe I could get a board expert to make me a board that can make a "dash board" for it, to monitor fan speeds and stuff (using RPM counters and the leds)
 

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Sounds like it might look cool. Be better if you had a car starting sound to play:)
Why would you need three PSUs though?
 

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johnwillyums said:
Sounds like it might look cool. Be better if you had a car starting sound to play:)
Why would you need three PSUs though?
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car sound would be good, but im going to use a USB project board that runs after windows has logged in.

Three PSU's : one for the motherboard, one for extras, one for even more extras. :) purely because I have three ignition starter points. (I, II, START)
 

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Cars are moving away from keys and ignition cylinders. RF Transponders in keyfobs and a start button are going to be the future.

3 PSU's will be a waste and more problems than you think.
Even though the ignition has 3 steps, only the first two are constant, while the 3rd, the starter engage is a momentary style switch. It's only enableb as long as you keep the key turned.
 

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Zepher said:
Cars are moving away from keys and ignition cylinders. RF Transponders in keyfobs and a start button are going to be the future.

3 PSU's will be a waste and more problems than you think.
Even though the ignition has 3 steps, only the first two are constant, while the 3rd, the starter engage is a momentary style switch. It's only enableb as long as you keep the key turned.
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True...


a waste, i will agree.. but I'm cool like that. the 3rd will be the one thats connected to the motherboard anyway. the momentary part of the switch will be hooked to the motherboards "Power" pins to fire the motherboard up...hence firing up the third power supply.


the first and second PSU's will be to take the load of extras like gpus, HDD's, DVD's, "sextras" (extras to make it look sexy)
 

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I love the idea, but I also think three psu's are excessive.. If it were me, I would do it fancy like point 1 turns on my monitors and speakers etc, point 2 turns on my computer fans, and point 3 turns on the actual computer.
 

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Maxwell said:
I love the idea, but I also think three psu's are excessive.. If it were me, I would do it fancy like point 1 turns on my monitors and speakers etc, point 2 turns on my computer fans, and point 3 turns on the actual computer.
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I like this idea...but it will require putting 250v through the keychamber...which I dont think is very healthy... seen as the chamber is designed for 12v (24 for trucks/lorries)

Edit

done a bit of research, and I came up with two projects for monitoring system stats with gauges, both very plausable due to having many usb ports and audio out ports.

Monitor with AUDIO
Monitor with USB
 
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DrToxic said:
ok, so I have wanted to make a wooden case for my computer for quite a while. i might get the stuff in and do it...

what i was thinking was to get two more power supplies in (yes, a PC with THREE power supplies) and get it starting up on an ignition chamber (thats found in cars).

car-key.jpg


am I mad? should I do it?

EDIT

Maybe I could get a board expert to make me a board that can make a "dash board" for it, to monitor fan speeds and stuff (using RPM counters and the leds)
Click to expand...


Check this Thread by Lordbob75 http://www.sevenforums.com/overclocking-case-mods/87419-project-cm-haf-932-paint-job-wiring.html He made/used a Key start switch in his build
 

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DrToxic said:
I like this idea...but it will require putting 250v through the keychamber...which I dont think is very healthy... seen as the chamber is designed for 12v (24 for trucks/lorries)
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The green wire!

Thats what turns the PSU on and off.
Look it up.

Like Zepher said, cars are moving away from keys. Just so happens I've made a USB key to start my car.
Its nifty.
I can probably mod it for a PC too, I guess. So it will only turn on when you plug in this usb key.
 

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I like this idea, too, and you've put a thought into my head...

In the days before ATX power supplies, most computer cases had a keyboard lock. It was usually a chrome switch with a key right on the front of the case.

I'm going to put an ATX board and power supply in an old case and attach the keyboard lock to the power switch input on the board so that turning the key will turn on the system. The big, obvious power switch on the front panel won't be connected to anything so hilarity will ensue when anyone tries to turn it on. :)

Kent
 

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Lava King said:
I like this idea, too, and you've put a thought into my head...

In the days before ATX power supplies, most computer cases had a keyboard lock. It was usually a chrome switch with a key right on the front of the case.

I'm going to put an ATX board and power supply in an old case and attach the keyboard lock to the power switch input on the board so that turning the key will turn on the system. The big, obvious power switch on the front panel won't be connected to anything so hilarity will ensue when anyone tries to turn it on. :)

Kent
Click to expand...

Haha!! Love the idea dude!! All im going to say is GO FOR IT!!! post pics and vids of people who fail to turn your rig on! :P

(also, theme windows to go with the older style case? :P)
 

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xarden said:
DrToxic said:
I like this idea...but it will require putting 250v through the keychamber...which I dont think is very healthy... seen as the chamber is designed for 12v (24 for trucks/lorries)
Click to expand...

The green wire!

Thats what turns the PSU on and off.
Look it up.

Like Zepher said, cars are moving away from keys. Just so happens I've made a USB key to start my car.
Its nifty.
I can probably mod it for a PC too, I guess. So it will only turn on when you plug in this usb key.
Click to expand...

usually green wire, read the PSU manual first. if theres no green wire... check where the green wire is on another PSU and use that wire. :)


I know cars are moving away from keystarts, but i will not. I dont like the new method of

  1. walk up to your car
  2. *car unlocks*
  3. get in the car
  4. push button to start

just doesnt seem like "Getting into a car and driving" to me... wheres the fumbling around the keychain with house-keys, bike keys, car keys, shed keys bla-bla-bla? :P

getting a pc to start on "usb" is easy enough... just get a usb port from something that doesnt work, and rig the power headder on the mobo to two of the usb terminals. Then, make a usb "key" that has the jumper (two pins connected). plug it in, pc turns off. leave it plugged in, 5 sec later, pc off. if pc is crashed, plug it in and leave it for a hard off.
 
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Why don't you go all the way and get the Mercedes key switch with rf fob. This way all you need to do is have the fob in the room and the computer would start with a button and if the fob is removed it won't, should only cost a couple of grand through the MB dealer if I understand their parts mark up !
 

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linnemeyerhere said:
Why don't you go all the way and get the Mercedes key switch with rf fob. This way all you need to do is have the fob in the room and the computer would start with a button and if the fob is removed it won't, should only cost a couple of grand through the MB dealer if I understand their parts mark up !
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I think i know what your thinking of. an immobilizer. if its not there, car wont start bla bla bla..
yeah...thats easy enough...build something that is a jumper.
hell, if you wanted to get creative, you could use the Android unlock on it (a panel with 4 rows, 4 columns of switches, and pc will only turn on if certain switches are ON

There is millions of ways of turning a PC on.... in the end of the day, so long as the power headder is shorted on the motherboard.... think of something that can stop and start electricity flowing..

... have fun. :) i always try to go cheap when i build... im a simple man who doesnt want a lot.. if i wanted a clever system, i'd build one. xD


I did have an idea of getting a filing cabinet (2 drawers high, wooden) to build into instead. it'd be easier.
 

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Micro$oft Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Core2Duo (2.66GHz autoclocked to 3.00GHz)4gb DDR2 (2+2gb)NVidia 8800gt + Generic Radeon
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HomeBuild (CodeNamed "Suzanne")
OS
Micro$oft Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core2Duo (2.66GHz autoclocked to 3.00GHz)
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5
Memory
4gb DDR2 (2+2gb)
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia 8800gt + Generic Radeon
Sound Card
OnBoard (see Motherboard), Azalia codec enabled
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron L197WH, Dell UltraSHARP 17", ACER V193W
Screen Resolution
1440x900x32 1440x900x32 1024x768x32
Hard Drives
500GB Sata (3.5")
500GB Sata (3.5")
160GB Sata (2.5")
PSU
NeoPower 550
Case
iCute
Cooling
Air (through Larger-than-needed heatsyncs)
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium Keyboard
Mouse
Standard Microsoft 3 button mouse with scroll wheel
Internet Speed
50mb/s Virgin Media
Other Info
got 4 PC's... need more space to list them.

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 EnterpriseIntel Pentium Dual E2200 @2.2GHz4GBPalit GForce 9500GT 1GB
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual E2200 @2.2GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte II-G31
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Palit GForce 9500GT 1GB
Sound Card
onBoard
Hard Drives
WesternDigital: 250GB + 1TB + 1TB + 2TB
PSU
450W
Case
CoolerMaster CM690
Cooling
Corsair H50
Mouse
Logitech MX518
xarden said:
DrToxic said:
Lordbob75 said:
:thumbsup:

~Lordbob
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Hey ~LordBob!

any hints/tips before i build?
Click to expand...

Test it on your friends machine.
Just in case it doesnt work ;)
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Good plan. Also, don't grab a live 120V line like I did.

Other than that, make sure you plan out what you want to do, make a list of how you are going to do it.
Make sure you have a way to mount things, and make it first so it doesn't turn out as crappy as mine did.

~Lordbob
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9Intel i5-2500k2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hera
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory
2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 24" Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II
PSU
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
Fans
Keyboard
Razer Tarantula
Mouse
Razer Lachesis
Internet Speed
not fast enough
Lordbob75 said:
xarden said:
DrToxic said:
Hey ~LordBob!

any hints/tips before i build?
Click to expand...

Test it on your friends machine.
Just in case it doesnt work ;)
Click to expand...
Good plan. Also, don't grab a live 120V line like I did.

Other than that, make sure you plan out what you want to do, make a list of how you are going to do it.
Make sure you have a way to mount things, and make it first so it doesn't turn out as crappy as mine did.

~Lordbob
Click to expand...

I have an INTEL Pentium 2 (the last one alive i think?) which I will use as a test subject. it doesn't know it yet.. so shh.. i don't want it to worry


first off, yours didn't come out crappy. I like it. im pretty fussy on PC cases... (I've been known to buy three per year)

It'll be easy not to grab a 120v line, we've got 250v over here in GB.

I will document my whole build and get it uploaded here for you to see. I'm going to be lazy (yeah..my middle name IS lazy) and start with this possibility WOODEN FILING CABINET because it will match my desk...and I don't have to make it.

This will also give me a chance to drill my way into what I would like to see.. (my own placement for buttons, leds, pots...)

I might use my laptop to do it Live on ustream.tv (link will come when i get the recording rig set up)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Micro$oft Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Core2Duo (2.66GHz autoclocked to 3.00GHz)4gb DDR2 (2+2gb)NVidia 8800gt + Generic Radeon
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HomeBuild (CodeNamed "Suzanne")
OS
Micro$oft Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core2Duo (2.66GHz autoclocked to 3.00GHz)
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5
Memory
4gb DDR2 (2+2gb)
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia 8800gt + Generic Radeon
Sound Card
OnBoard (see Motherboard), Azalia codec enabled
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron L197WH, Dell UltraSHARP 17", ACER V193W
Screen Resolution
1440x900x32 1440x900x32 1024x768x32
Hard Drives
500GB Sata (3.5")
500GB Sata (3.5")
160GB Sata (2.5")
PSU
NeoPower 550
Case
iCute
Cooling
Air (through Larger-than-needed heatsyncs)
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium Keyboard
Mouse
Standard Microsoft 3 button mouse with scroll wheel
Internet Speed
50mb/s Virgin Media
Other Info
got 4 PC's... need more space to list them.
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