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I have an iPhone 3G 16GB w/a non-active sim card I was given while at an AT&T store. When I turn on the phone, it asks to be connected to iTunes. My question is-
Can I & if so how do I get songs onto the phone w/o using iTunes? I did it w/an old iPod before, but forgot what I used.
 

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mediaMonkey is great
 

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Winamp can also do the job, but you need to add this plugin
 

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I have an iPhone 3G 16GB w/a non-active sim card I was given while at an AT&T store. When I turn on the phone, it asks to be connected to iTunes. My question is-
Can I & if so how do I get songs onto the phone w/o using iTunes? I did it w/an old iPod before, but forgot what I used.
If you just plan to use it as an iPod for music then MediaMonkey should work fine.
 

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Thanks for the replies. Since I already have Winamp (v2.91 b/c it's small & works fine for me), I'm going to try that route 1st.
I do have another question & I may sound anal for this, can Winamp check to make sure I have all the song's file info (ID3 Tag) correct? I have 436 songs & most should be correct already, but I'd rather not go through them 1 by 1.
 

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Winamp wansn't working quite right, so this mourning I installed MM v3.2.5.1306 & upon running it, I received the 1st error; clicking the X results in the 2nd error & MM closes out.

I also did ask the MM forums, but they don't let users post attached pics ... strange.
 

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Winamp wansn't working quite right, so this mourning I installed MM v3.2.5.1306 & upon running it, I received the 1st error; clicking the X results in the 2nd error & MM closes out.

I also did ask the MM forums, but they don't let users post attached pics ... strange.
Do you have iTunes on your computer?
I seem to remember that there are some drivers on it that need to be present in your computer for Mediamonkey to be able to work. Can't swear to it 100% though.
 

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THis is indeed a weird thing, You need Bonjour Running for Iphone items.

Why dont you want to use Itunes anyway?
 

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Found out why it kept crashing & once I got rid of QuickTime, MM runs just fine now & I have been able to load, check & update my song IDTags.
But new problem, MM will not recognize my iPhone. I'm using the original cord that came w/the iPhone; I plug it into the comfuser, iPhone beeps then goes dark a few seconds later & on the comfuser screen get a message & choose "Sync files w/this device" but nothing happens - no choice in MM.
 

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I went to an Apple store to ask if the iPhone was working normally (when I turn it on, Apple logo stays onscreen about 45sec. before anything happens; once on, goes to "sleep" w/in 2sec.). Guy took a look at it behind the counter, came back to me & said it needed to be activated (which he already did).

Still takes 45+/- to get to main screen, but now I have the icons & can take pictures, enter & browse contacts, etc. But MM still does not 'SEE' the iPhone. iPhone just shows as a device in Windows Explorer.

I've tried this hack for MM but no go. I just don't get why MM sees my iPod Mini but not iPhone 3G, any suggestions?
 

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I installed iTunes as a test, now MM can see my iPhone & sync my music; I just wish MM was able to sync more than just the music, but I may have found an alternative: Transfer Music from iPod to iTunes. Copy iPhone Music to Computer, iPod to PC and iPhone to Mac. iPod rip.

The reasons I don't want iTunes are:
1. New Processes running & eating memory (what are conhost & disnoted for, do I really need these)?
2. 3 new Services automatically running at bootup

I removed the iTunesHelper.exe from running at startup by using MSConfig & the registry.
 

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Onboard High Definition Audio Device
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HP 2009m LCD
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1600x900, True Color (32bit), 60Hertz
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WD Blue - 1TB, 3D NAND - SATA SSD
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XFX Pro 450W Core Edition - Fully Wired
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Antec Super Lanboy
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Stock CPU fan + 2 (1 front, 1 back) 120mm Antec fans
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Logitech MK700/MK710
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Logitech M705
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Frontier FiOS 50/50
Antivirus
Windows Security
Browser
Vivaldi
Other Info
1x ASUS DRW-24B1ST Multi-DVD Rewriter
1x RocketFish AIO Media Card Reader
1x WD 1TB Passport USB External Drive
I am currently using Copytrans Manager as an iTunes alternative to add and manage music on my iPhone. Unfortunately, MediaMonkey is not yet compatible with the iOS 5.
 
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