Connection Drops when other devices connect to home network

CaptPhil

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I'm at wits end, and if I had hair, I'd be pulling it out.

I'm running a home network with a new Netgear N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router. I have an external drive connected, and running WPA2-PSK (AES) security. My ISP is Shaw (Canada).

I'm running several devices off this network successfully.

-Win 7 hard wired
-PS3
-Wii
-Win XP Professional
-Win XP home
-three cell phones (two BB, android)
-Samsung Galaxy 10.1
-several ipods
-Win 7 wireless*

*this is the problem child. When the network is booted, connections are established with no problem. When other items enter the network (particularly the ipods), the Win 7 wireless loses connectivity. I get the little circle around the network icon, and 'limited connectivity', cycling through with "No Network Access". When crashed, ping gets no responses. No other devices have any issues connecting or staying connected.

I try turning off and on wireless on the computer, disconnecting and connecting to the network again, nothing works. The ONLY solution is to reboot the router and modem. This will gain me connectivity for a while, but often, as soon as another device enters the network, it crashes again. It's exceptionally frustrating.

I've tried to designate specific IP addresses via MAC addresses in the router settings. I've tried to disable the IPv6, nothing helps.

I've been reading and reading various guesses about what's happening. The latest try has me disabling "Computer Browser" from Services, but that also not helping.

Any advice, any thing else to look at, any other posts to point me to, anything is appreciated. I'm desperate for some stability. I'm not the most technological adept user, but I'm game to try to learn.
 

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Win7
Anyone... anything???

Just to add a little more info.. I thought it was just when the ipods entered the network, but last night, a BB entered the network (pretty much everything else running smoothly) and it crashed the Win7 wireless again. Very frustrating.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7
please provide me any IP address, you get when its working, and the IP your device has when its not... curious if your getting APIPA, it sounds like a DHCP issue to me
 

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Windows 7 pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz
Motherboard
MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156
Memory
Gskill 8 gig, 4x2gig
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS EAH5850
Sound Card
built in HD
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 23 inch
Hard Drives
1tbHDD,500HDD,500HDD,30SSD no RAID...
Case
Cooler master HAF 932
Cooling
4 case fans, v6 cpu cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G110
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Razer Death Adder
Internet Speed
never fast enough
When I connect, I get a valid IPv4 and a IPv6. When it crashes, ipconfig gives no IP address.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7
It does sound like a DHCP issue.

Is the Windows 7 device a laptop or a PC? Certain laptops may not like AES. Try setting a static IP address on the Windows 7 machine to see if it fixes the problem. If not, try changing the wireless security to TKIP (Take a backup of your routers config just in case).

List and Name all Anti-Virus, Security or Firewall Software installed.

Install and run Xirrus Wi-Fi Inspector.
Double click the Xirrus Icon on your Desktop, Tap the Printscreen key on your keyboard, open up Paint then choose Edit from the Menu and select Paste, then SAVE it. Upload and attached it here, click on Go Advanced and locate Manage Attachments Tab and attached the file.

Post an ipconfig /all of the computer in question for review.
Note: For Vista and Windows 7, you have to open up the command prompt in an elevated command:
Click on the Start Menu search box area type cmd, right click on cmd see at the top, and click on Run as Administrator.

Click on Start => in run or search box type cmd press enter (run as Admin for Vista and 7). From the black screen, type the word ipconfig /all and press enter. Right click on the black screen or Command prompt then choose Select All and Paste the results onto your Post.

You may also attach the ipconfig /all output if the computer is unable to connect to the Internet then use an external USB flash drive to transfer the .txt file.
Click on Start => in run or search box type cmd, press enter. From the command prompt (black screen), Copy and Paste these ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt . Please attach the .txt file to be found in your Local Disk 'C' on your next post.


Dave
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K (O/C 4.7GHz)
Motherboard
Asus ROG Maximus IV Extreme-Z - Intel Z68 Chipset
Memory
8GB Corsair Vengeance LP, DDR3, 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 460 Graphics Card
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E228WFP
Hard Drives
2 x 500GB Samsung SpinPoint Drives (1 for OS, 1 for Data and Apps)
PSU
CoolerMaster 1000W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF
Cooling
Air
Internet Speed
Fibre - 60MB Down, 30MB Up
Antivirus
ESET NOD32 Antivirus
It does sound like a DHCP issue.

Is the Windows 7 device a laptop or a PC? Certain laptops may not like AES. Try setting a static IP address on the Windows 7 machine to see if it fixes the problem. If not, try changing the wireless security to TKIP (Take a backup of your routers config just in case).


Dave


Starting at the top... I have, on my router, assigned specific IP addresses for each MAC address for each device on the network, including the Win 7 problem laptop. It does connect to it, but I have done nothing on the laptop itself to designate a specified IP. Is that what you are referring to, or do I need to do something on the laptop too? If so, please point me to instructions.
 

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Win7
What are the laptop's specs (make/model/etc)?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 15 L502x
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7-2670QM
Memory
8GB DDR3 PC3-10600
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5400RPM Seagate
Dell Insprion

Is there not some security issues with posting my ipconfig for the world to see?
 

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ipconfig will show your internal IP Address not external so should be fine.

Remove the MAC filtering from the router temp so you can see if it is causing an issue.

Is the routers firmware up to date?


Dave
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K (O/C 4.7GHz)
Motherboard
Asus ROG Maximus IV Extreme-Z - Intel Z68 Chipset
Memory
8GB Corsair Vengeance LP, DDR3, 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 460 Graphics Card
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E228WFP
Hard Drives
2 x 500GB Samsung SpinPoint Drives (1 for OS, 1 for Data and Apps)
PSU
CoolerMaster 1000W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF
Cooling
Air
Internet Speed
Fibre - 60MB Down, 30MB Up
Antivirus
ESET NOD32 Antivirus
There are a ton of Inspirons out there...
 

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Dell XPS 15 L502x
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7-2670QM
Memory
8GB DDR3 PC3-10600
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5400RPM Seagate
the only one that might not be secure to share, would be your default gateway...
does your "valid ip's" your getting happen to start with 169. ?
 

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OS
Windows 7 pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz
Motherboard
MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156
Memory
Gskill 8 gig, 4x2gig
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS EAH5850
Sound Card
built in HD
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 23 inch
Hard Drives
1tbHDD,500HDD,500HDD,30SSD no RAID...
Case
Cooler master HAF 932
Cooling
4 case fans, v6 cpu cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Razer Death Adder
Internet Speed
never fast enough
you'll have this problem with so many devices on a home network router. netgear told me that a home router should handle up to 5 or 6 devices without issue.
I have a similar issue with a windows 7 laptop.

it seems to only want to use the same ip it had when you turned it off last and doesn't want to search or should I say "get a new one" when I turn it on. I have to do it manually.
netgear recommend I put it's ip as static and then set that ip address to that device only in the router's settings. but that actually made things worse. it would then instead take over the other ip addresses the other devices were using. netgear support said that shouldn't happen and they were out of ideas.
 

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OS
windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
CPU
amd athlon 64 X2 5000+
Motherboard
asus A8M2N-LA
Memory
4 gigs pc2 5300
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS
Sound Card
Realtek alc888 high def 8 channel
Monitor(s) Displays
17"samsung syncMaster and 32" LCD panasonic viera tv
Hard Drives
300 gb Hitachi sata 7200rpm
1T seagate Barracuda sata 7200rpm
150 gb WD PATA
250gb WD my passport USB 2.0
PSU
Antec
Other Info
Altec lansing ATP3 3 pc speaker system(these things rock!)
The MAC filtering was put in place in an attempt to try to fix this. I will disable it.

The router firmware is up to date. We bought a new one thinking our old router wasn't able to handle so many devices.

Here's the crashed ipconfg /all

Would it help to post an ipconfig /all when running?
 
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You bought a new router? and still have same problems? id call your ISP and let them know, your modem, might have gone bad....I wouldnt normally say that, but i had similar issue's this past weekend, but my house modem was about 8 years old. They came and replaced it the next day, and i can handle probly around 20 hosts fine now.

if the case for sure is that you cant connect more than so many user's I still think its a DHCP issue, can you post your network range setup, etc... i see its a class C obviously but im curious if something might be off a little
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz
Motherboard
MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156
Memory
Gskill 8 gig, 4x2gig
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS EAH5850
Sound Card
built in HD
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 23 inch
Hard Drives
1tbHDD,500HDD,500HDD,30SSD no RAID...
Case
Cooler master HAF 932
Cooling
4 case fans, v6 cpu cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Razer Death Adder
Internet Speed
never fast enough
if the case for sure is that you cant connect more than so many user's I still think its a DHCP issue, can you post your network range setup, etc... i see its a class C obviously but im curious if something might be off a little


Happy to, no idea how or what you are looking for...
 

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Win7
Check the DHCP scope on your router. make sure its not set for less devices than is on your network (i.e. it is giving out addresses at least 10 addresses from 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.11)

Did you try a static IP on the wireless? Can you connect with a cable with no problems?

When it crashes next check the IP addresses of your other devices to make sure there isnt a conflict.


Dave
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K (O/C 4.7GHz)
Motherboard
Asus ROG Maximus IV Extreme-Z - Intel Z68 Chipset
Memory
8GB Corsair Vengeance LP, DDR3, 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 460 Graphics Card
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E228WFP
Hard Drives
2 x 500GB Samsung SpinPoint Drives (1 for OS, 1 for Data and Apps)
PSU
CoolerMaster 1000W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF
Cooling
Air
Internet Speed
Fibre - 60MB Down, 30MB Up
Antivirus
ESET NOD32 Antivirus
DHCP scope is set from 2-242. I can connect wired no problem, but have to recreate the crash situation to see if wired will survive the scenario. Will do and report.
 

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Win7
Testing today... when left hard-wired, it seemed to stay connected. It was a single shot test though.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7
I bought a new router today. a netgear N300 all of my issues went away.
you have a much better router than me but a lot more connected devices.
 

My Computer

OS
windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
CPU
amd athlon 64 X2 5000+
Motherboard
asus A8M2N-LA
Memory
4 gigs pc2 5300
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS
Sound Card
Realtek alc888 high def 8 channel
Monitor(s) Displays
17"samsung syncMaster and 32" LCD panasonic viera tv
Hard Drives
300 gb Hitachi sata 7200rpm
1T seagate Barracuda sata 7200rpm
150 gb WD PATA
250gb WD my passport USB 2.0
PSU
Antec
Other Info
Altec lansing ATP3 3 pc speaker system(these things rock!)
Testing today... when left hard-wired, it seemed to stay connected. It was a single shot test though.


Test may have been flawed, so disregard that.

Anyway, I ran an ipconfig /all both connected and crashed, looking for any differences between. (other than lease obtained/expired)

The differences:

Working:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
As far as I can tell, this bolded line is the only difference between the two. I have no idea what it means.
 
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