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So whats the size of your windows\winsxs folder
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Kari
An Angry Old Man
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yeah plus its a 64 bit system... i have an install.wim file with a winsxs under 250mb ready to go. that i didnt beileve.
working on getting the manifest folder cleaned up by checking against hashes found in the folders names that get emptied out in the process. it is taking 30 secs for each file to be checked and there is 12,163 files. thats like 100 minutes... i can get it down to 50 minutes easily, however i have to write the code yet...
it takes a few hours to check for duplicates / and delete those found in the winsxs folder, and a few minutes to delete the empty folders / extact the needed hashes for the "manifests" process, also the first phase takes about 45 minutes to form a hash Database
so at least 4 hours to complete, and my hard drive scores a 7.7 in the experience index
i will be releasing the program soon, looking for a few testers that know how to back up and restore thier systems with ease. ill post more info when its ready, have fun
working on getting the manifest folder cleaned up by checking against hashes found in the folders names that get emptied out in the process. it is taking 30 secs for each file to be checked and there is 12,163 files. thats like 100 minutes... i can get it down to 50 minutes easily, however i have to write the code yet...
it takes a few hours to check for duplicates / and delete those found in the winsxs folder, and a few minutes to delete the empty folders / extact the needed hashes for the "manifests" process, also the first phase takes about 45 minutes to form a hash Database
so at least 4 hours to complete, and my hard drive scores a 7.7 in the experience index
i will be releasing the program soon, looking for a few testers that know how to back up and restore thier systems with ease. ill post more info when its ready, have fun
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Kari
An Angry Old Man
I was serious when I said I am never going to believe you. Your specs show a 120GB HD and then you tell us you took out hundreds of gigs from one folder on that disk.
Do you understand how important WinSxS is and that you should not touch it? This quote from a valued expert, an MVP:
Something to read:
Kari
Do you understand how important WinSxS is and that you should not touch it? This quote from a valued expert, an MVP:
(http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/9411dbaa-69ac-43a1-8915-749670cec8c3/)
Something to read:
- What is the WINSXS directory in Windows 2008 and Windows Vista and why is it so large? - Ask the Core Team - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
- http://www.sevenforums.com/software/205639-how-reduce-size-winsxs.html
Kari
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ok there no problems yet. no need to reinstall if you have a backup now is there and if something does mess up it will be fixed within 15 minutes or so. if i said "billions" of gb's would you get it... theres only a few files/dubs you have to avoid deleting other then that its just not alot of unneeded files...
if you think that controversy wait till i start delelting files in my SysWOW64 folder, i have found that these a few files in there at are 32 bit and are already in the system32 folder
if you think that controversy wait till i start delelting files in my SysWOW64 folder, i have found that these a few files in there at are 32 bit and are already in the system32 folder
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whs
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Whatever you take out of winsxs will come right back unless you delete the underlying files. And Kari is right, if you mess with it, you are looking for trouble. What is that "nifty program" you used.
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it will be called "magicsxs" still writing the code for it. the manifest was taking way to long and would have taken a day to complete, rewriting it now to speed it up
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stormy13
OutTooLunch
You do realize that the files in System32 on 64 bit Windows are 64 bit, and the ones in SysWOW64 are 32 bit don't you? You do also realize that removing said files from the SysWOW64 folder can and will break any program or device that requires those files?
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whs
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Do yourself a favor and take an image of your system before you start playing with winsxs. Then at least you do not paint yourself into a corner from where you cannot easily escape.
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yous ever hear the one song...
"have you ever had shoes with-out shoe strings?" - Kanye West
"have you ever had shoes with-out shoe strings?" - Kanye West
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seavixen32
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I tried wearing shoes without shoestrings because we were poor and I kept tripping over.
In fact, I tripped over that many times I broke my ankle, which meant I couldn't walk very far.
Can you see where I'm going with this?
If you mess up your computer by playing around with this folder, you may find a distinct lack of help in sorting things out.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.......that's my motto.
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"this is complicated, at least for y'all it is" - bubba sparxx
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stormy13
OutTooLunch
Well it is nice to see that you are bound and determined to try and break Windows to the point of having to load a known good image or a total re-install to fix it. You are free to do whatever you want to your system, but please don't be posting any links to any auto "cleaning" app you may come with as there are far too many out there that would see something like and try it with not realizing what it can and likely mess up.
Or if you do insist on posting a link to, do you mind if we forward any and all help posts about it afterwards?
Or if you do insist on posting a link to, do you mind if we forward any and all help posts about it afterwards?
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whs
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We'll keep am eye on it and have the mods delete any such link.
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smarteyeball
knows his stuff
The key word is 'yet'.
What you're doing may be 'doable' but your targeted demographic should definitely not be the average 'johhny one-click' user.
There are so many potential negative ramifications from this idea it is not funny.
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One other thing to consider ...
The files shown in the WINSXS folder are not there and they are not files
WINSXS contains a number of Junction Points leading to other files scattered about the system
It is a work around for those developers who insist on writing code that is hard coded to use a particular version of a system file rather than the latest version as should be the case
For example you have a file OriginalVersion3.DLL that is 20MB in size
Developer A writes code that explicitly calls OriginalVersion1.DLL so the windows system creates a junction point OriginalVersion1.DLL that points to OriginalVersion3.DLL
Developer B writes code that explicitly calls OriginalVersion2.DLL so the windows system creates a junction point OriginalVersion2.DLL that points to OriginalVersion3.DLL
Due to the way that the Junction Points are Parsed the WINSXS folder shows three Files Version 1, 2, & 3 with a total size of 60MB whereas the actual junction points are probably less than a few K.
I too was confused by this at one time, and looked into methods of reducing its size, but research has proved that the use of these Junction Points vastly inflates the real size of this folder
The files shown in the WINSXS folder are not there and they are not files
WINSXS contains a number of Junction Points leading to other files scattered about the system
It is a work around for those developers who insist on writing code that is hard coded to use a particular version of a system file rather than the latest version as should be the case
For example you have a file OriginalVersion3.DLL that is 20MB in size
Developer A writes code that explicitly calls OriginalVersion1.DLL so the windows system creates a junction point OriginalVersion1.DLL that points to OriginalVersion3.DLL
Developer B writes code that explicitly calls OriginalVersion2.DLL so the windows system creates a junction point OriginalVersion2.DLL that points to OriginalVersion3.DLL
Due to the way that the Junction Points are Parsed the WINSXS folder shows three Files Version 1, 2, & 3 with a total size of 60MB whereas the actual junction points are probably less than a few K.
I too was confused by this at one time, and looked into methods of reducing its size, but research has proved that the use of these Junction Points vastly inflates the real size of this folder
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