Solved random BSOD playing with an emulator or websurfing.

foxloose · Mar 25, 2012

random bsod doing anything,playing ps2 with an emulator or watching a video on youtube.

system info :

cpu: AMD FX 6100 Six core processor 3.30 GHz
memory: 8,00 gb
OS: windows 7 ultimate 64bits
pc name:razer-PC
GPU: Geforce 9500 1gb 128bits
motherboard: M5A78L-M LX
bios ver:0901

my gpu is a litle bit old, but everything else is new (less than 1 month old)

(nothing overclocked)

zigzag3143 · Mar 25, 2012

Related to BCC101

http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-lo..._watchdog_timeout-troubleshtg.html#post567135

foxloose · Mar 26, 2012

i run memtest for about 6 hour and prime for 8h i guess...didnt got any error...installed all latest drivers...could this be the bios? if i downgrade the bios from 0901 to another one..it can damage my motherboard or its safe?
(the bsod on the first post was after 18h using the pc...today ill let it on for the same amount of time)

Jonathan_King · Mar 26, 2012

Hello,

Which Prime95 tests did you run? If you haven't already, go back and run each of the others for a few hours. Also, if you have another video card you can try out, that'd be helpful, as one of the crashes pointed to a graphics error.

I'd recommend you flash the latest BIOS and keep it there; the new BIOSes have the greatest chance of stability, and as we have seen from the crash using the 2009 BIOS, older isn't necessarily better.

...Summary of the dumps:

Code:

[font=lucida console]
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Built by: 7600.16385.amd64fre.win7_rtm.090713-1255
Debug session time: Sun Mar 25 21:49:28.657 2012 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 10:37:46.234
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT_6_PROC
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
BiosReleaseDate = 02/15/2012
SystemProductName = System Product Name
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
Built by: 7601.17514.amd64fre.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850
Debug session time: Mon Mar 26 04:11:52.205 2012 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:44:50.845
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atikmpag.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atikmpag.sys
Probably caused by : atikmpag.sys ( atikmpag+79e0 )
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  GRAPHICS_DRIVER_TDR_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x116
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x116_IMAGE_atikmpag.sys
BiosReleaseDate = 01/08/2009
SystemProductName = System Product Name
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
  
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foxloose · Mar 27, 2012

hello
yesterday i let my pc on for about 20 hours doing normal stuff and even playing...no crashes...
btw i will buy a new gpu...that 9500 its a litle bit old

i don't know if its solved...i will let my brother using it while i'm at work.... ill report back if is there any changes

(sorry for my bad english)

Jonathan_King · Mar 27, 2012

Sounds good...good luck!

foxloose · Mar 27, 2012

something very strange happned...i just checked the "blue screen viewer" and theres was 2 more bsod dating from 12:00 pm and another from 13:00 pm (today)...but at that time i was using the pc...playing dota...and i didnt got any bsod how could the progam report that?
(the bsod error code was x124)

also my brother were playing minecraft and the pc just reboot.....

Jonathan_King · Mar 27, 2012

It's possible BlueScreenView isn't showing the timestamps correctly. All BSODs coincide with reboots/shutdowns.

If you haven't already, run the rest of the Prime95 tests. Also, what is the model of your PSU?

foxloose · Mar 27, 2012

i will run the rest of the test at night....
my psu its a Seventeam PNL SERIES 500w

the guy who sold me the cpu,motherboard and memory told me that it could the my psu...

Jonathan_King · Mar 27, 2012

If THIS is your PSU, then I wouldn't doubt it's the cause, especially if it's older. It is rated at 68% efficiency, while the industry standard is typically at least 80%. You may consider trying a different PSU, preferably at least 500 watts and 80+ certified. Name-brands are far better than generics for PSUs; Corsair, Cooler Master, Thermaltake, all make high-quality PSUs.

foxloose · Mar 27, 2012

man i think that its the same psu but the color is black.... a corsair psu would solve the problem...right?
i will buy a new PSU in the next few days,ill report back if anything changes.

thank you very much man.

(could you recommend any model that is 80%?)

Jonathan_King · Mar 27, 2012

Unfortunately, I can't guarantee it. There's no evidence that directly blames the PSU; it just seems like a possibility based on past experiences and your particular current model. Thus, if possible, you're better off borrowing one from another computer so you don't take the risk.

If it comes to buying a PSU, you can trust pretty much anything by Corsair, Thermaktake, Cooler Master, SeaSonic, and perhaps a few others as well. Just find a model with good reviews and sufficient wattage (500W+), and you'll be pretty safe. Modular PSUs are nice, as you can unplug the cables you don't need to keep the case more tidy. You will pay more for that feature, however.

foxloose · Mar 27, 2012

i have another PSU that is 600w,never had any problem...but its generic too.

i'm willing to buy a "corsair CMPSU 650TXM ".

Jonathan_King · Mar 27, 2012

I'm not against the idea of you buying a Corsair, but try the 600w. If it works, you know you're on the right track!

foxloose · Mar 28, 2012

man...i didnt test a new PSU yet...ill buy it next week ..but i'm getting new error codes you may skip the error 101 in the file...that is the first one....if you can have a look at those 4 new error and tell me what that mean... :O

(random reebot too)

Jonathan_King · Mar 29, 2012

Have you run the other Prime95 tests yet?

http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-lockup-debug-how/35349-stop-0x124-what-means-what-try.html

...Summary of the dumps:

Code:

[font=lucida console]
Built by: 7600.16917.amd64fre.win7_gdr.111118-2330
Debug session time: Wed Mar 28 20:01:30.324 2012 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:13.618
Probably caused by : AuthenticAMD
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x124_AuthenticAMD
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x124_AuthenticAMD_PROCESSOR_BUS_PRV
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
Built by: 7600.16917.amd64fre.win7_gdr.111118-2330
Debug session time: Wed Mar 28 11:54:30.229 2012 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:14.852
Probably caused by : AuthenticAMD
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x124_AuthenticAMD
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x124_AuthenticAMD_PROCESSOR_BUS_PRV
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
Built by: 7600.16917.amd64fre.win7_gdr.111118-2330
Debug session time: Tue Mar 27 12:17:35.388 2012 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:13.012
Probably caused by : AuthenticAMD
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x124_AuthenticAMD
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x124_AuthenticAMD_PROCESSOR_BUS_PRV
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
Built by: 7600.16917.amd64fre.win7_gdr.111118-2330
Debug session time: Tue Mar 27 11:51:03.961 2012 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:16.239
Probably caused by : AuthenticAMD
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x124_AuthenticAMD
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x124_AuthenticAMD_PROCESSOR_BUS_PRV
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
Built by: 7600.16385.amd64fre.win7_rtm.090713-1255
Debug session time: Sun Mar 25 21:49:28.657 2012 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 10:37:46.234
Probably caused by : Unknown_Image ( ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE )
BUGCHECK_STR:  CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT_6_PROC
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  uTorrent.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT_6_PROC_ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE
BiosReleaseDate = 02/15/2012
SystemProductName = System Product Name
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
  
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foxloose · Mar 29, 2012

i did,no errors.

foxloose · Mar 29, 2012

that new log says that is my CPU right?
maybe its Cpu fault...

foxloose · Mar 29, 2012

so i tested my old psu and i got a new blue screen 101

might be a energy related ...i changed from recommended to the other one that has a high perfomance and it crashed after 2h....with the recommended it take more time to crash.

heres the .rar with the new 101.

the 101 i got with the old psu 600w that i was testing.

Jonathan_King · Mar 30, 2012

You might try underclocking the CPU for now, until you can determine whether the PSU is the cause. Alternatively, try boosting voltage to the CPU slightly, and see if that helps anything.

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