System Reserve is fragmented

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There is an old post about this topic but it looks like it wasn't resolved.

http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/143859-system-reserve-7-fragmented.html

My SYSTEM is now 9% fragmented. It has gotten to this level after 1.5 years, but most of it occured in the last six months or so.

I use the built-in Defrag tool and it is set to default. In the old thread OldMX mentions that the tool should defrag the SYSTEM unless a setting was changed, which I don't think I did. And indeed the settings say it should defrag the SYSTEM.

I have not manually tried to defrag that partition. Windows Backup and Restore was mentioned in the post, I do use it but only have the most recent backup saved.

Should I be concerned about the fragrmentation? If so what should I do about it?
 

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My advice would be to uncheck that disk and leave it alone.... :D
 

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System Reserved is gererally a 100 mb drive-letterless partition. It is used only during the booting process as far as I understand. Therefore you are hardly going to get any improvement in performance in case you defragment it.

Defragmenting it would be a fruitless exercise and it should be left alone. That said, I don't think defragmenting it would in any way degrade your system. You can therefore try it out if you are in an adventurous mood and want to experiment.
 

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Thanks for the replies.

Now with a better understanding of the System Reserve I thnk my questions/concerns include why has it become fragmented? Why has Disk Defragmenter not automatically defragmented it since it was set to do that automatically? Will the System continue to fragment and is there a point heavy fragmentation will cause problems?
 

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Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz
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MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E)
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4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
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Integrated Intel H57
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Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio
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I don't know why it has become fragmented, maybe SP1 updates, but even if you allow windows defrag tool to run on it it just ignores it, probably because the files are in use.

Interestingly the third party tools I have used don't even present it as an option.
 

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I agree - don't be concerned with it. Another possible reason why it won't defrag is because that 100MB system partition doesn't have enough free space to defrag.
 

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The size of the System Reserved Partition can be easily increased to 200 megabytes or even more. I haven't created a System Reserved Partition when installing W 7 because I don't like it, but I am reasonably certain that the free, third party application "Puran Defrag" would be able to defragment it.
 

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Puran doesn't even present it as an option.
 

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Not even after you assign to it a Drive Letter, that can later (after defragmentation) be removed.

But then I do not have a System Reserved Partition so I can't say for sure without trying out if the above work-around would work.


kado897 said:
Puran doesn't even present it as an option.
Click to expand...
 

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Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit2 gigs of RAMIntel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
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Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit
Motherboard
Intel D845GVS1 X86-based PC
Memory
2 gigs of RAM
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Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
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Realtek AC'97 Audio
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Samsung SyncMaster 931BF Black 19" LCD Monitor
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wanchoo said:
Not even after you assign to it a Drive Letter, that can later (after defragmentation) be removed.

But then I do not have a System Reserved Partition so I can't say for sure without trying out if the above work-around would work.


kado897 said:
Puran doesn't even present it as an option.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

I've not tried assigning a drive letter to it. As with others I don't see the point.
 

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If you assign it a drive letter it will show in any 3rd party defragging tool. Seems a lot of messing for no gain though.

Danny
 

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I have already said it earlier, like all the others, that there is no point in defragmenting the System Reserved Partition because that would not improve the performance.

However I also said that if the OP was in an adventurous mood and wanted to experiment then there was a way to defragment the System Reserved Partition.

I agree that to those of us who know, there is no point in messing around with the System Reserved Partition but for someone who wants to learn hands-on there might be.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit2 gigs of RAMIntel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit
Motherboard
Intel D845GVS1 X86-based PC
Memory
2 gigs of RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97 Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 931BF Black 19" LCD Monitor
Screen Resolution
1280X960
Hard Drives
1. SAMSUNG SP0822N ATA Device ~ 80 GigaBytes

2. Seagate FreeAgent Go USB Device ~ 500 GigaBytes
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COMPAQ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
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iBall Laser Precise Speedster
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