Solved Win7 64-bit: suddenly won't print; devices work fine

Gorham

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Windows 7 64-bit
Canon MP610 USB printer
Test Page works fine for the Canon Printer; it takes a long time but Test Page also works for Acrobat; works quickly for XPS Document Writer.

I honestly don’t know where to go next. I think the problem is in how Windows communicates the print instructions from applications to the print devices. But I don’t know how to go there. Hoping for help here and much appreciated.

No hardware changes; I had installed two software apps so I’ve uninstalled them with Revo so I don’t think there’s a software issue. Nothing else has changed since I could print merrily along.

My problem seemed to start in Acrobat 8 (Pro) and only intermittantly but it is now system-wide and inevitable. When I try to print to anywhere, I either get a "printer not responding" message or a stall requiring a task manager "task end". I've had failures with screen prints, MS Word, Acrobat (either in the browser or stand-alone). On the stalls, I get to preparing for background print and there it sits. That seems to be true for both the Canon and Acrobat.

I've checked everything I can think of printer-wise. I've always had the Adobe as default but I switched it to the Canon. No change so I switched it back.

I've run the oh so (not) helpful Windows 7 printer trouble shooter. Nothing found there except I had unchecked the share box as I tried to solve the problem. The troubleshooter suggested I turn it back on so I did. Still no change.

I installed the 64-bit driver for the Canon but that was when I thought it was the problem. I don't think so now but that's the driver that's on here now.

I wanted to send PDFs of my system and settings but I can't so, here's what looks like it might help and I'll add as requested.

From the properties on the Canon:
Sharing: Both Share this printer (Canon MP610 series Printer) and Render print jobs are checked. The only driver listed as installed says x64 Type3 - User Mode.
Ports: USB001 Virtual printer port for ... Canon Inkjet MP610 series [other ports listed but not checked] Enable bidirectional support IS checked; Enable printer pooling is not.
Advanced: Always available.

  • Driver: Canon Inkjet MP610 series. That changed (I think) when I installed the 64-bit driver. Canon MP610 series Printer is on the drop down menu but not currently in use and neither are document converters or XPS document writer.
  • Spool print documents ... radio box selected as is Start printing immediately
  • Print directly to the printer is NOT selected.
  • Below the line, Print spooled documents first and Enable advanced printing features are checked; the other two boxes are not.
  • Printing defaults are what they've always been and not - I think - important here.
  • Print Processor is BJ Print Processor4. Canon MP610 series Print Processor and winprint are not selected; I did try switching to the MP610 processor with no change. Default data type is RAW.
Color Management is set to the monitor's profile.
Security: I discovered that the two manage permissions weren't selected for everyone. I'm the only user so I changed that. Again, no change and, based on the Acrobat settings (below), I’ve changed it back. Seems it’s supposed to be that way.
Maintenance: There doesn't seem to be any issue to be worked with here.

Okay. For the printer settings for Acrobat:
Actually there were 3 documents stuck in its queue but removing them didn't cause any change in printing - to anything.
Sharing: Share this printer (Adobe PDF) and Render print jobs are enabled. x64 Type 3 – User Mode is the only installed driver.
Ports: “Documents\*.pdf” is the port. Description is “Adobe PDF Port” and the printer is “Adobe PDF”. Here bidirectional support is greyed out. Enable printer pooling is not checked.
Advanced: Always available; driver is Adobe PDF Converter.
Spool print documents so program finishes printing faster and Start printing immediately are also selected.
Below the line Print spooled documents first is the only box checked.
Color Management: again, I’m ignoring this.
Security: This is like the other was before I changed it, to wit, only “print” is checked allow for Everyone. Administrator and User (me) have all three permissions. I’ve changed the Canon back and left this.
Device Settings:
Form To Tray Assignment OnlyOne: Letter
After the Font Substitution Table,

  • Available PostScript Memory: 4096 KB
  • Output Protocol: ASCII
  • Send CTRL-D Before Each Job: No
  • Send CTRL-D After Each Job: Yes
  • Convert Gray Text to PostScript Gray: Yes
  • Convert Gray Graphics to PostScript Gray: Yes
  • Add Euro Currency Symbol to PostScript Fonts: No
  • Job Timeout: 600 seconds
  • Wait Timeout: 0 seconds
  • Minimum Font Size to Download as Outline: 100 pixel(s)
  • Maxiumu Font Size to Download as Bitmap: 600 pixel(s)
Not sure where to turn or what to do. I'm very sure I appreciate the time you've taken reading this far. :geek:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i3-2020 @ 3.3GHz
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics Family
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell P2411H Analog (flat screen)
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
300 GB SATA (Internal)
300 GB SATA (External) x 2
LaCie d2 quadra 500 GB
FreeAgency GoFlex Drive (NTFS) 2 TB
PSU
Yup
Case
Black
Cooling
2 fans
Keyboard
Microsoft ComfortCurve 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Optical
Internet Speed
Apparently a variable. Supposed to be cable modem speed.
Have you tried a System Restore to a time prior to the first appearance of this problem?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
Have you tried a System Restore to a time prior to the first appearance of this problem?

Eureka! Thanks so much. Should have thought of it but that's why it's so great this group is here. Sort of like a huge brain! :D

I don't think a lot had changed and I'm more than willing to figure that part out. Now I can print the Tour de France bib numbers which was what started it all in the first place.

Thank you!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i3-2020 @ 3.3GHz
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics Family
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell P2411H Analog (flat screen)
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
300 GB SATA (Internal)
300 GB SATA (External) x 2
LaCie d2 quadra 500 GB
FreeAgency GoFlex Drive (NTFS) 2 TB
PSU
Yup
Case
Black
Cooling
2 fans
Keyboard
Microsoft ComfortCurve 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Optical
Internet Speed
Apparently a variable. Supposed to be cable modem speed.

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i3-2020 @ 3.3GHz
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics Family
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell P2411H Analog (flat screen)
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
300 GB SATA (Internal)
300 GB SATA (External) x 2
LaCie d2 quadra 500 GB
FreeAgency GoFlex Drive (NTFS) 2 TB
PSU
Yup
Case
Black
Cooling
2 fans
Keyboard
Microsoft ComfortCurve 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Optical
Internet Speed
Apparently a variable. Supposed to be cable modem speed.
I would make a Win7 backup image of your System now that you can use to reimage the HD if printer stops working again. Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup

Oh! Absolutely a good idea. I need to know more about imaging anyway. Backups I do; imaging not so much. But the tutorials here are superb and I'll head over there right away. You're so right. Now is only a little too late. :confused:

Thanks uh... Greg?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i3-2020 @ 3.3GHz
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics Family
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell P2411H Analog (flat screen)
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
300 GB SATA (Internal)
300 GB SATA (External) x 2
LaCie d2 quadra 500 GB
FreeAgency GoFlex Drive (NTFS) 2 TB
PSU
Yup
Case
Black
Cooling
2 fans
Keyboard
Microsoft ComfortCurve 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Optical
Internet Speed
Apparently a variable. Supposed to be cable modem speed.
Be sure to make the Repair CD if needed for System Image Recovery

Ah. Yes, thanks.

BTW, I browsed through all the seven forums to see where I might be a helper rather than the seeker I've been here. I'm retired now and not developing websites or using a lot of leading edge products. I honestly don't think my used-to-be expertise has developed with the times and couldn't find an area where I might contribute. Somehow it seemed important to say that, not just to you but to the others who've helped me so much. And, :rolleyes: , those who likely will in future.

So. Many, many thanks - back and forward.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i3-2020 @ 3.3GHz
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics Family
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell P2411H Analog (flat screen)
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
300 GB SATA (Internal)
300 GB SATA (External) x 2
LaCie d2 quadra 500 GB
FreeAgency GoFlex Drive (NTFS) 2 TB
PSU
Yup
Case
Black
Cooling
2 fans
Keyboard
Microsoft ComfortCurve 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Optical
Internet Speed
Apparently a variable. Supposed to be cable modem speed.
If it interests you I'd also check out www.eightforums.com, our sister site.

Getting in on the ground floor during beta is what gave many of us here a depth of experience with Win7.

I actually set up a virtual disk and started to mount Win8 before I chickened out. Not because of the W8 specifically but because I really felt I was in over my head. I'll lurk over at the forum and maybe find a better way to dip my toes in the W8 pool.

Thanks for the steer; I hadn't realized (should have) it was already started.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i3-2020 @ 3.3GHz
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics Family
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell P2411H Analog (flat screen)
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
300 GB SATA (Internal)
300 GB SATA (External) x 2
LaCie d2 quadra 500 GB
FreeAgency GoFlex Drive (NTFS) 2 TB
PSU
Yup
Case
Black
Cooling
2 fans
Keyboard
Microsoft ComfortCurve 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Optical
Internet Speed
Apparently a variable. Supposed to be cable modem speed.
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