After finally replacing my old PSU I can use my external HDD in both my laptop and destop machines, but, since a time ago, I notice that XP is able to power down devices you safely remove, but Windows 7 is not... and everytime I use W7 with my external, I gotta unplug the cable (just of course after safely removing) with the power still going through the HDD... and it sounds weirdly when doing so...
Sometimes windows will tell the disk has errors even if I safely removed the hardware and I guess it's because of this, however, the disk is not damaged (fortunately).
They say this behaviour is intenden on Windows 7 and even Vista, but I really fear that the HD can be fisically damaged if I cannot get it to spin down before fisical removal...
The question here, is, would you reccomend to apply this fix? will I have problems if doing so? Anyone has tested this and used this fix?
Thanks in advance for your help and answers.
See ya!!
My Computer
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled Desktop PC
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600
Realtek High Definition Audio Driver ALC660 @ MCP61S
Monitor(s) Displays
HP S2031 20" LED HD Widescreen Display Monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900 px
Hard Drives
Maxtor Diamond Max 10 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II Hard Disk)
Western Digital Scorpion Blue (250 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk - Personal Data)
Toshiba MQ01ABD050 (500 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk - Software & ISOs)
PSU
Pixxo Transformer 850W 80+ Certification PSU
Case
Compaq 5BW353 Case
Cooling
Many solutions, see other info...
Keyboard
Green Leaf (Mitzu) Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft USB Lasser Pointing Device
Internet Speed
10 MB
Antivirus
Avast Antivirus Free
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer
Other Info
Windows Experience Index Result: 3.8 of 7.9.
Cooling solutions:
- AVC @ 2000/5000 RPM Copper Heatpipes (For Athlon 64 X2 6000+ CPU used in an Athlon 64 X2 5200+)
- Rear Fan 80 mm @ 2700 RPM for heat extraction
- Manhatan Chipset Cooler @ 4700/7200 RPM (For nVidia Chipset in MoBo)
- Foxconn @ 2500 RPM (Old Pentium III heatsink fan) in XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350
If Windows is reporting drive errors the fast solution would be running the Check Disk tool. You can see that scheduled to run in two ways rather then disable the usb bus.
1) Right click on the drive's icon in Windows Explorer to bring up the properties screen and open the Tools tab. Click on the Check now button und error checking.
2) Open up a command prompt and type in "chkdsk /r" which will then see the "disk check scheduled for next startup" confirmation.
This will repair basic file system errors. If you ran a diagnostics tool and no hardware errors were found like bad sectors this should clean up the rest while it may take a several minutes on the next startup.
W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
Memory
Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
Graphics Card(s)
MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
Sound Card
Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
Screen Resolution
Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
Hard Drives
WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
PSU
Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
Case
Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
If Windows is reporting drive errors the fast solution would be running the Check Disk tool. You can see that scheduled to run in two ways rather then disable the usb bus.
1) Right click on the drive's icon in Windows Explorer to bring up the properties screen and open the Tools tab. Click on the Check now button und error checking.
2) Open up a command prompt and type in "chkdsk /r" which will then see the "disk check scheduled for next startup" confirmation.
This will repair basic file system errors. If you ran a diagnostics tool and no hardware errors were found like bad sectors this should clean up the rest while it may take a several minutes on the next startup.
Already did, no errors found, even ran HDD Regenerator (I'm a complete paranoid XD) and no bad sectors found... but, everytime I eject the HDD using safe removal, the disk keeps spinning, and sometimes when plugged back brings the dialog with the options to check the disk for errors, In XP this doesn't happen ...
Would you reccomend applying the fix from microsoft?
My Computer
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled Desktop PC
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600
Realtek High Definition Audio Driver ALC660 @ MCP61S
Monitor(s) Displays
HP S2031 20" LED HD Widescreen Display Monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900 px
Hard Drives
Maxtor Diamond Max 10 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II Hard Disk)
Western Digital Scorpion Blue (250 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk - Personal Data)
Toshiba MQ01ABD050 (500 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk - Software & ISOs)
PSU
Pixxo Transformer 850W 80+ Certification PSU
Case
Compaq 5BW353 Case
Cooling
Many solutions, see other info...
Keyboard
Green Leaf (Mitzu) Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft USB Lasser Pointing Device
Internet Speed
10 MB
Antivirus
Avast Antivirus Free
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer
Other Info
Windows Experience Index Result: 3.8 of 7.9.
Cooling solutions:
- AVC @ 2000/5000 RPM Copper Heatpipes (For Athlon 64 X2 6000+ CPU used in an Athlon 64 X2 5200+)
- Rear Fan 80 mm @ 2700 RPM for heat extraction
- Manhatan Chipset Cooler @ 4700/7200 RPM (For nVidia Chipset in MoBo)
- Foxconn @ 2500 RPM (Old Pentium III heatsink fan) in XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350
When you disable the usb bus entirely forget the use of any usb mouse and/or keyboard as well. You would only use the "Per Device Setting" method not the Global method with the registry edit seen in the article. That part is specific to one device only like the external drive.
W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
Memory
Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
Graphics Card(s)
MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
Sound Card
Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
Screen Resolution
Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
Hard Drives
WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
PSU
Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
Case
Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
Well, I was forced to use the global setting, as using the "Per device" method did nothing XD... testes with the correc ID and everything... but didn't do, just the global
By now, my USB mouse works nicely, and now the HDD spins down whenever is safely removed, I hope I don't receive more errors after this
Weird case in here XD...
Thanks for the help.
See ya!!
My Computer
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled Desktop PC
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600
Realtek High Definition Audio Driver ALC660 @ MCP61S
Monitor(s) Displays
HP S2031 20" LED HD Widescreen Display Monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900 px
Hard Drives
Maxtor Diamond Max 10 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II Hard Disk)
Western Digital Scorpion Blue (250 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk - Personal Data)
Toshiba MQ01ABD050 (500 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk - Software & ISOs)
PSU
Pixxo Transformer 850W 80+ Certification PSU
Case
Compaq 5BW353 Case
Cooling
Many solutions, see other info...
Keyboard
Green Leaf (Mitzu) Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft USB Lasser Pointing Device
Internet Speed
10 MB
Antivirus
Avast Antivirus Free
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer
Other Info
Windows Experience Index Result: 3.8 of 7.9.
Cooling solutions:
- AVC @ 2000/5000 RPM Copper Heatpipes (For Athlon 64 X2 6000+ CPU used in an Athlon 64 X2 5200+)
- Rear Fan 80 mm @ 2700 RPM for heat extraction
- Manhatan Chipset Cooler @ 4700/7200 RPM (For nVidia Chipset in MoBo)
- Foxconn @ 2500 RPM (Old Pentium III heatsink fan) in XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350
Well at least you gave it a try to see which would work out for you. Glad the Global option did solve it for you.
Here I have to use the high performance options in the power plan but haven't run into too many problems with usb drives and devices except a stubborn printer or two! Had a few times when it wouldn't stop the flash drive in at the time where I simply unplugged it anyways. After a restart the problem simply disappeared though.
W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
Memory
Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
Graphics Card(s)
MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
Sound Card
Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
Screen Resolution
Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
Hard Drives
WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
PSU
Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
Case
Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower