MSI GTX 560 Ti Hawk Twin Frozr III or MSI GTX 650 Ti Cyclone?

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Hi guys.
I'm planning to upgrade my graphics card and I have the possibility of buying either an as new MSI GTX 560 Ti Hawk Twin Frozr III or a new MSI GTX 650 Ti Cyclone.
Price is the same.
Any advice?
Thanks,

J
 

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Hi there,

Well the GTX 650 is slightly more powerful, However the GTX 560 with the Twin Frozr III has a great cooling solution and very quiet.

Hope this helps a bit.
 

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D3LL said:
Hi there,

Well the GTX 650 is slightly more powerful, However the GTX 560 with the Twin Frozr III has a great cooling solution and very quiet.

Hope this helps a bit.
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Hey D3LL.
Actually the 560Ti Hawk is much more powerful that the 650 Ti almost in every aspect, at least that's what I read in every benchmark I could lay my hands on, and it actually runs a lot hotter under load than the 650 Ti, Twin Frozr or not.
That's why I'm asking.
Newer technology with lower power consumption and temps or older tech but more power?
 

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Sorry, I must have been looking at a different one.

Can you provide me with the store links of where you are buying them from :).

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The 560 Ti I'm buying from a friend, used, the 650 Ti I'm buying down here in Argentina, so links wouldn't be much help.
Thanks anyway.
 

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Bloody hell the 560 is less powerful however still manages to come out on top with the FPS.

If I were you I'd go with the 560!
 

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The 560 Ti has more Memory GB Bandwidth that is why it still beats out a 650 Ti Overclock it downright match the same specs

go with the 560Ti and a Slight Oc you will be fine
 

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I wonder whether the benchmarks are for a regular 560ti or a 560ti 448? The latter is significantly better, and more expensive.

The 560 has a 256 bit path to VRAM, while the 650ti is 128 bits. If that's the explanation, I'm surprised that the effect is so large.
 

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bobkn said:
I wonder whether the benchmarks are for a regular 560ti or a 560ti 448? The latter is significantly better, and more expensive.

The 560 has a 256 bit path to VRAM, while the 650ti is 128 bits. If that's the explanation, I'm surprised that the effect is so large.
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I guess people who bought the 650Ti wasted some Money eh ?
 

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@Bungee18
Hi, in my opinion, the gtx560ti is the better card, as log as your PSU is enough to power it.
However, I would recommend a Radeon HD7870 for your system cos your CPU is made by AMD also the hd7870 supports the latest DX11.1 HD7870 is a bit more expensive but plays better on battlefield 3 and other frostbite engine powered games (if you want to play those games), other than that, the GTX 560ti is a fine choice. And what a coincidence, we have the same casing!
 

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xenot7 said:
@Bungee18
Hi, in my opinion, the gtx560ti is the better card, as log as your PSU is enough to power it.
However, I would recommend a Radeon HD7870 for your system cos your CPU is made by AMD also the hd7870 supports the latest DX11.1 HD7870 is a bit more expensive but plays better on battlefield 3 and other frostbite engine powered games (if you want to play those games), other than that, the GTX 560ti is a fine choice. And what a coincidence, we have the same casing!
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I can agree with this I forgot you are running a 8120 I helped you in the Overclcocking Thread it would be better to pair AMD/ATI GPU with your setup as it has configurations that boost performance with the chip and GPU together called Scorpious ............ you are running that now in a fashion but need a stronger gpu like a 7870 ghz ed or 7950 take full advatage of everything

Good catch Xenot ;)
 

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@Solar and Xenot,
The thing is I do a lot of video and photo editing and want to take advantage of nvidia's CUDA thing.
Actually some hi end video editing programs don't even work with ATI.
The GTX 560Ti I'm looking at is a MSI "Hawk" Twin Frozr III, which is factory OC and also can be OC'ed very well according to all reviews. In benchmarks it beats a regular GTX 560 Ti in every aspect, and runs cooler with the Twin Frozr thing.
So following your advice it is either this card or a 7850. Don't want to spend the extra $ on the 7870 or 7950.
Is the Scorpius feature on a 7850 going to make a difference compared to this "special" 560Ti?
What about crossfire with the 7770 I already have plus a new one? Is it worth it?
One additional question: Would a Sapphire 7850 be any good? I've heard some mixed comments...
Thanks for your advice.

J
 

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Bungee18 said:
@Solar and Xenot,
The thing is I do a lot of video and photo editing and want to take advantage of nvidia's CUDA thing.
Actually some hi end video editing programs don't even work with ATI.
The GTX 560Ti I'm looking at is a MSI "Hawk" Twin Frozr III, which is factory OC and also can be OC'ed very well according to all reviews. In benchmarks it beats a regular GTX 560 Ti in every aspect, and runs cooler with the Twin Frozr thing.
So following your advice it is either this card or a 7850. Don't want to spend the extra $ on the 7870 or 7950.
Is the Scorpius feature on a 7850 going to make a difference compared to this "special" 560Ti?
What about crossfire with the 7770 I already have plus a new one? Is it worth it?
One additional question: Would a Sapphire 7850 be any good? I've heard some mixed comments...
Thanks for your advice.

J
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Yes, doubling a 7770 would be a better choice than a GTX 560ti, but imo a single card is les buggy and les power consuming. An HD7850 isn't a better choice, and if yu want those CUDA cores then your better off with an Intel processor (i5/i7) and a GTX 660/660ti. Or if yu don't want to change processors then a GTX 660 (around your price range but a bit more) is highly recommended.
 

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Bungee18 said:
@Solar and Xenot,
The thing is I do a lot of video and photo editing and want to take advantage of nvidia's CUDA thing.
Actually some hi end video editing programs don't even work with ATI.
The GTX 560Ti I'm looking at is a MSI "Hawk" Twin Frozr III, which is factory OC and also can be OC'ed very well according to all reviews. In benchmarks it beats a regular GTX 560 Ti in every aspect, and runs cooler with the Twin Frozr thing.
So following your advice it is either this card or a 7850. Don't want to spend the extra $ on the 7870 or 7950.
Is the Scorpius feature on a 7850 going to make a difference compared to this "special" 560Ti?
What about crossfire with the 7770 I already have plus a new one? Is it worth it?
One additional question: Would a Sapphire 7850 be any good? I've heard some mixed comments...
Thanks for your advice.

J
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With what you are doing Bungee The Video Encoding speed will Mainly Be Cpu the Gpu helps but the CPU will be the work horse 8 threads Multicore rendering doesn't matter what GPU is used the result will fair the same only difference would be gaming 7850 is ideal and would serve great purpose as it is a 3gb card and more powerfull then the 560TI

find a low end quadro gpu
 

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According to me here are your choices:
-GTX 560ti
-HD7770*2
-HD7850
-my recommendation from the green side is GTX 660 (personal choice, but 560ti is fine)
-recommendation from the red side is HD7850 (Crossfiring low end cards is not a good idea)
 

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Quadro GPUs are for workstations and perfect for photo and video editing, they also accelerate CAD. The Quadro are not great for gaming I presume and is expensive but it suits Your needs.
 

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xenot7 said:
@Solarstarshines
Quadro GPUs are for workstations and perfect for photo and video editing, they also accelerate CAD. The Quadro are not great for gaming I presume and is expensive but it suits Bungee's needs.
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Nah they are not for gaming that is why I suggested a work station GPU if he is serious about editing with a GPU as far as I know that is the one that would take advantage of all the bells and whistles of adobe and other Programs that are used professionaly

Anyway my statement still stands doesn't matter what GPU he chooses his CPU will be doing the work so no need to even drop all kinds of money on a new GPU unless he is going for better performance with the combination 8120+7850 that would be the best you would get out of your system

Or get a 8350 Cpu and your Video editing power will increase by 20% now that would make sense <-------
 

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AC97 Creative Rage Tactic 3D Headphones Bluetooth
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 48" Vizio Smart HD TV
Screen Resolution
2560x1440p 27"- 48" Currently Gaming at 2560x1440p Res 2K
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung Evo840SSD Seagate baracuda 500 GB WD Mybook 500Gb 1TB Seagate Barracuda
PSU
HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli
Case
Enthod Pro Full Tower
Cooling
Corsair H110i GT 280 mm High Performance WaterBlock
Keyboard
Logitech wireless keyboard
Mouse
Logitech wireless mouse
Internet Speed
Cox Cable 100+ mb
Antivirus
WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus
Browser
IE-10, Chrome, Opera
Other Info
My Other Rig is a AMD FX8320E @4.6Ghz 16GB Ballistic Sport Ram
Mobo Asrock Fatality 990FX 120GB OCZ SSD 1TB Seagate Barracuda Corsair H75 Cooling PSU Corsair CX750
GPU GTX Gigabyte 970G1
@Solarstarshines
Better than getting an A-Series CPU eh?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1Intel core i5 3470 @3.2 GHzV-Gen 4GB DDR3PowerColor HD7750
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel core i5 3470 @3.2 GHz
Motherboard
ECS H77-M3
Memory
V-Gen 4GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
PowerColor HD7750
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ RL 2240h
Screen Resolution
1920*1080
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 1TB
PSU
Enlight Blacksilver 550W
Case
NZXT Phantom 410
Keyboard
Logitech G100
Mouse
Logitech G100
Internet Speed
Very SLOW (512Kbps)
xenot7 said:
@Solarstarshines
Better than getting an A-Series CPU eh?
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APU will get chewed up by 8350 and gpu it is only good for low end solutions for people who don't want to invest in premium parts but they are comming along though beating out alot of HDgraphics

Also he can upgrade the cpu he already has the socket for it
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1Intel I7-6700K @ 4.6 Ghz 1.344 volts everyday OC32GB G-Skill TridentZ 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 DDR4Sli Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 G1
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
CoreI7-6700K MrFingerIII Special Builds
OS
Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
CPU
Intel I7-6700K @ 4.6 Ghz 1.344 volts everyday OC
Motherboard
Asrock Fatality K6 Z170 Socket 1151
Memory
32GB G-Skill TridentZ 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
Sli Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 G1
Sound Card
AC97 Creative Rage Tactic 3D Headphones Bluetooth
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 48" Vizio Smart HD TV
Screen Resolution
2560x1440p 27"- 48" Currently Gaming at 2560x1440p Res 2K
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung Evo840SSD Seagate baracuda 500 GB WD Mybook 500Gb 1TB Seagate Barracuda
PSU
HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli
Case
Enthod Pro Full Tower
Cooling
Corsair H110i GT 280 mm High Performance WaterBlock
Keyboard
Logitech wireless keyboard
Mouse
Logitech wireless mouse
Internet Speed
Cox Cable 100+ mb
Antivirus
WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus
Browser
IE-10, Chrome, Opera
Other Info
My Other Rig is a AMD FX8320E @4.6Ghz 16GB Ballistic Sport Ram
Mobo Asrock Fatality 990FX 120GB OCZ SSD 1TB Seagate Barracuda Corsair H75 Cooling PSU Corsair CX750
GPU GTX Gigabyte 970G1
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