Multiple Graphic Cards, Still freezes and Crashes Asus CM6830

DeWitts

New member
Local time
4:24 PM
Messages
8
I bought two identical Asus computers for my business and both seem to dislike graphic cards. The computers will ramdomly freeze (dead keyboard and mouse) and some times shut down. No BSOD. The problem seems to go away when I remove the graphics card and run the on-board VGA device. I've tried wired mouse and USB with no differece.

I've tried formating the hard drive and re-intalling a clean windows7 Ulimate with no change.
I've updated the bios several times, and updated all the dirvers. The unit came with a ATI HD6450 (fan) and I switched it out to a Asus Geforce GT530, and then a GT520, and none of them worked.

This old thread
http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-help-support/162903-random-freezes-windows-7-ultimate-64bit.html

Seems to be my solution but I can't get anything to adjust using the Asus bios manager. Asus has a AI manager that will not work after downloading and the bios numbers seem to be displayed only. I can't adjust anything.

I sent one unit back to Bestbuy and they didn't have a clue, and then back to Asus they said it was the Graphics card, installed a new one without testing it and sent it back. Still freezes. The problem seems to be getting worse the more cards I try. I assume the un-used drivers are not helping.

Window7 Ultimate 64Bit
I72nd gen Intel H61
8mb ram 1t HD

Any and comments would be appreciated
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
Have you updated the current drivers?

No... You need to uninstall Ati Drivers, and install Nvidia ones. Else you will have issues like these.
Best buy is too dumb to see the difference between AMD and Nvidia.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 professional X64AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhzXFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 professional X64
CPU
AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz.
Motherboard
Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4
Memory
8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz
Graphics Card(s)
XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200rpm
PSU
Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W
Case
Thermaltake Commander MS-I
Cooling
Cooler Master N520
Mouse
Logitech M504
Internet Speed
10Mbps
Hoping Dave will drop in

Have you updated the current drivers?

.

Yes, all the drivers pass as the best available. Since my original post I have updated by specs, d/l specy and CPU/z, as suggested in many threads, however I can't seem to find a good free driver sweep app. I removed the AMD program but it still shows up in the program list.

I am currently using the computers at work, so the only way for me to get anything done is to remove any graphics card and use the on board VGA. With no card, everything works fine, well, no keyboard/mouse freeze or shut downs but there seems to be a delay in keyboard response as some times I look up to see something like thiiiiiiis, or ths. If I type slower, it's fine but a bit annoying.

I don't run games so a video card isn't absolutey necessary but I do use photoshop a lot and I would like all the colors and resolution to be the best it can be. The only way for me to do any real testing is to re-install one of the graphics cards and deal with freezing and crashing while I run diagnositics. That isn't the easiest thing to do when you need your computer. Nor is running cylce tests for hours or days but I want to find out what is wrong. Next up, a GT 545 card.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
Well, I removed all the previous Graphic drivers and folders, installed the GT 545 and used the Nvidia site for a new clean install. Left the computer go over night with Google chrome open. Came in this morning and the keyboard and mouse were frozen. The only way to get out of this is to do a hard re-boot because the key board will not response to the c/alt/del.

Checking the event log, I see a few sequence errors that windows says I can egnor but the computer is shutting down and restarting about every three hours. What happens is the mouse & key board freeze and if you don't re-boot after a while it will re-boot all by itself. Remove the video card and problem goes away. It is clearly something to do with the video card but I can't figure it out. The second computer (identical) uses a card with two DVI ports (don't know exact model) and this unit doesn't have the problem. She says she has an occasional random shut down but I think that's because I still have the factory 300w PS in there. I am going to upgrade that PC to the same Antek 450 w.

I am out of options, I believe I have tried everything I can. I can pull the GT 545 and it works fine in VGA. it even works better with the Vcard in between freezes and crashes. Maybe there is something wrong with the card holder like a bad solder pin to the mother board? I don't know....If anyone has anything to try or check I would be happy to do so
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
A factory 300w PSU isn't going to cut it with that card dude. The card alone uses 105 watts and factory PSU's are POS so going with the Antek 450w is a no brainer here and should solve the problem.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHzG.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2TGTX480
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
A factory 300w PSU isn't going to cut it with that card dude. The card alone uses 105 watts and factory PSU's are POS so going with the Antek 450w is a no brainer here and should solve the problem.

I agree, and I am going to put one in my secretaries computer however the bigger PS did nothing for mine. I have the 450w in mine and nothing changed.

Please note, I bought two identical (2) CM6830 at the same time. Both would freeze out of the box, which didn't concern me because I aways re-format and do a fresh windows install to get rid of all the bloatware. After installing a new copy of win7 Ultimate both units still freeze and re-boot randomly.

So, if you have a suggestion or a solution remember I have two identical units doing the same thing. I tried to explain this to Bestbuy and Asus factory and they kept on making suggestions like "try" doing a fresh install or sounds like a driver issue. Both units ARE a fresh install. Bad memory sticks have been suggested, and I have tried it with just one, then the other, with no change, and AGAIN, what are the odds of two computers having bad sticks? If the memory was an issue, it would also be an issue with the Vcard removed.
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
Hi DeWitts, are both the units on the same power line? Is surge protection applied on each computer? I am just wondering out of the box, since something seems to be effecting both units.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64FX 8350 @ 4.8ghz, turbo clocked to 5.4ghzMushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB 1760mhz 10-10...Gigabyte-660 Windforce OC- GPU Clock 1212MHz ...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX 8350 @ 4.8ghz, turbo clocked to 5.4ghz
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth FX990 Gen 3.0 R2.0
Memory
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB 1760mhz 10-10-9-24 T1
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte-660 Windforce OC- GPU Clock 1212MHz /3504MHz ram
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe Sound Card
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster S27B350H (HDMI)
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60HZ
Hard Drives
1 x SSD Crucial M4 256GB (Primary OS)
3 x HDD WD 1TB
4 x HDD 2TB
1 x HDD 160GB (Secondary Backup OS)
Raid SATA III 6GB/s 4-port PCI-e Controller Card, Marvel 88SE9215 chipset
PSU
Chieftec-650-14CS (Modular) 80 Plus Gold-650 Watt
Case
Akasa Venom Toxic Gaming Big tower ( Custom Black ) Ver 2.0
Cooling
Water 2.0 PRO / GEIL Cyclone VRM / 6x120mm 2x220mm 2x140mm
Keyboard
Logitech G19
Mouse
Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000
Internet Speed
Fiber GBS
Antivirus
Don't Announce it to the world :)
Browser
Gotta have at least 1!
They are on same circuit breaker but so are other computers. Each one has a surge protector.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
I am so bumbed out....My PC froze/crashed/rebooted almost every three hours this weekend just idling when using the GT545. I pulled out the card and it seems to run ok. Except my windows experience rating for video is 1. :cry:
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
With all the input and advise I'm getting here it seems like this is just my personal blog. Anyway I discovered by accident that my motherboard I7-3770 Ivy bridge supports Intel HD Graphics 4000. I was so excited that I might have high resolution screens I switched to the internal HDMI connection, updated the graphic drivers, and the screen looks great. Then it froze again and it would freeze, requiring a manual boot, about every two hours. The only difference with the Intel versus the PCIe cards is the screen becomes pixelated. If I switch back to standard VGA, it works without any problems.
Anyone out there???
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
Graphics card freezes

Make sure that you PC is not overheating. You must have a good cooling system in CPU. I would suggest to change the coolers to avoid such problems.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
cool as a cucumber, never gets over 30c. Freezes in stand by with nothing running

I was kinda hoping Dave76 would see this and comment. I believe I have run out of options as the factory bios does not allow for any voltage adjustments or OC. Asus does offer an AImanager that might provide these adjustments but I've tried several times to download it and install it and it doesn't work. I've also read the the Asus utilities can cause even more problems so I removed all that. I don't know if it is possible to convert to the UEFI bios which might allow for adjustment? The problem is clearly a graphics issue as the system runs fine with VGA standard. Unless someone here gives me something to try, I'm disabling the Intel HD 4000 and going back to VGA.
 
Last edited:

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows7 Ultimate 64i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus CM6830
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Motherboard
AsusTek CM6330_CM6630_CM6730_CM6830 P8H61-M-Pro
Memory
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 791MHz (11-11-11-28)
Graphics Card(s)
Currently W2361 (1920 x 1080 @ 1HZ Std VGA
Sound Card
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Monitor(s) Displays
LG Flatron w2361
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
932GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 29 °C
PSU
Upgraded to 450W Antec VP450
Case
CM6830
Cooling
(2) Main and CPU 1650rpm
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless
Mouse
Logitech USB wireless
Internet Speed
10MB/sec
Antivirus
MS Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
ATAPI DVD A DH24ACSH ATA Device
4101 bios
Back
Top