PCI/Integrated Graphics Problem

I have an Asus Pundit-R that is working pretty well with Windows 7 apart form the poor performance of the inbuilt ATI Radeon 9100IGP graphics. To try to improve on this I have added a Powercolor HD2400 Pro in one of the PCI slots.

Unfortunately, there is no BIOS option to disable the onboard graphics adaptor - even when the BIOS is set to use the PCI card it remains enabled. I therefore see two display adaptors in Device Manager; the onboard one ('Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor' and the HD2400 ('ATI Radeon 2400 Series'). The onboard graphics are running with the Windows 7 vgapnp.sys driver and the HD2400 with the latest AMD Catalyst drivers (8.661.0.0) and everything looks good.

However, Windows 7 then uses the onboard graphics as its primary interface (as expected) and I can't get any output on the HD2400. Only one monitor shows up in 'Display... Screen Resolution' and pressing the 'Detect' button fails to add the second display. What I want to do is to get the second display running and then set Windows to use that one exclusively.

This could be the expected behaviour if vgapnp.sys wasn't a WDDM-compliant driver, but surely it must be...?

Any ideas about how I can get the HD2400 working?

Dude I'm having this SAME problem with my GeForce 9400 GT! I even made a video of it to show people: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeyZRk8k-tc"]YouTube- Graphic Card Display Not Detected[/ame]

lol I know exactly watcha going through. But I was told to disable my onboard graphics, so I'm gonna try that. I'll tell you how it goes...

I can't disable the integrated graphics - there's no BIOS option for that (and yes, I have got the latest BIOS!).

All I can do is change the priority between Integrated first and PCI second and PCI first and Integrated second. If I have Integrated first then I get the problems I described in the earlier post. If I have PCI first then it's worse - Windows comes up on the HD2400 but there is a Code 12 error (This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use) on one of the PCI-to-PCI Bridges and the HD2400 shows up as a 'Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor' with a Code 10 error (This device cannot start).

Device manager. Right click on the other device (not ATI one) under display adapters. Choose disable. Reboot.

Thanks for the response. I've tried out your suggestion, and Windows still comes up on the integrated adaptor (yes, that's the one that is supposed to be disabled and which now has a black down arrow against it in Device Manager!). There's no output on the HD2400.

Plug your monitor into HD 2400.

ianbak said:

If I have PCI first then it's worse - Windows comes up on the HD2400 but there is a Code 12 error (This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use) on one of the PCI-to-PCI Bridges and the HD2400 shows up as a 'Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor' with a Code 10 error (This device cannot start).

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Update your bios and disable all unused ports. (Serial or Parallel, floppy etc...) Put PCI as initial display device or similar.

Then see about getting latest chipset driver from manufacturer's website.

Then install latest ATI driver from website. If you can't do this part, let me know after you did the other stuff.

-> Update your bios and disable all unused ports. (Serial or Parallel, floppy -> etc...) Put PCI as initial display device or similar.

The BIOS is the latest version. I've disabled every onboard interface except for the USB ports and LAN, but still get the Code 10 and 12 errors when the PCI adaptor comes first (but no errors at all when it comes second).

-> Then see about getting latest chipset driver from manufacturer's website.

There's nothing on the Asus web site for any OS after Windows XP. I got the LAN driver working first, using an old version of Catalyst. After that all of the rest of drivers installed themselves from Windows Update and the the LAN driver updated itself, so they should all be as current as possible.

-> Then install latest ATI driver from website. If you can't do this part, let me know after you did the other stuff.

I did a complete driver uninstall, rebooted and then reinstalled the latest Catalyst Windows 7 32-bit drivers from ATI. The log is below.

Catalyst™ Install Manager
Installation Report
11/05/09 21:29:38

Hardware information NameRADEON 9000/9100 IGP SeriesManufacturerATI Technologies IncDevice ID0x5834Vendor ID0x1002Class Code0x030000Revision ID0x00Subsystem ID0x8107Subsystem vendor ID0x1043Other hardwareExisting packages Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 RedistributablePackages for install
ATI Catalyst Install Manager Final Status:SuccessVersion of Item:3.0.745.0Size:20 Mbytes
Other detected devicesManufacturerATI Technologies IncDevice ID0x5833Vendor ID0x1002Class Code0x060000Revision ID0x02Subsystem ID0x8107Subsystem vendor ID0x1043ManufacturerATI Technologies IncDevice ID0x5838Vendor ID0x1002Class Code0x060400Revision ID0x00Subsystem ID0x5838Subsystem vendor ID0x1002ATI Integrated SMBus Support ManufacturerATI Technologies IncDevice ID0x4353Vendor ID0x1002Class Code0x0c0500Revision ID0x1aSubsystem ID0x8108Subsystem vendor ID0x1043ManufacturerATI Technologies IncDevice ID0x4349Vendor ID0x1002Class Code0x01018aRevision ID0x00Subsystem ID0x8108Subsystem vendor ID0x1043ManufacturerATI Technologies IncDevice ID0x4342Vendor ID0x1002Class Code0x060401Revision ID0x00Subsystem ID0x0000Subsystem vendor ID0x0000
Error messagesThe system is still behaving exactly as before - the HD2400 is driving the Windows display but shows up in Device Manager as a Standard VGA Graphics Adaptor with a Code 10 error.

Post a screenshot of device manager with system devices maximized. Another for display adapters maximized.

Also, "system information" from start menu search box. When it opens, ctrl+s.
Use Winrar on the saved file and then attach .rar to post with screenshots.

Also, physically install the PCI card to another slot furthest away from where it is now. Switch it with another if there are no empty slots available.

ASUS P4R8L this is your mobo and it would seem that there is no support (drivers) beyond XP...

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/7875-ati-9250-pci-video-card-problem.html

ATi_Mobility_Radeon_9000_Driver_for_Windows_7.rar - ATi Mobility Radeon 9000 Driver for Windows 7 - BADONGO

may find some help from there... but after an hour on google, it looks like you are SOL dude... sorry.

I do appreciate the time you're spending on this!

Attached are the files you asked for. 'PCI' is with Windows running on the HD2400 and 'Internal' is with Windows running on the Internal Graphics.

I have tried the HD2400 in both PCI slots and it makes no difference.

Ian.

I know there's no official support beyond XP, but I actually got the stock system running Windows 7 really well! The only issue I had at all was that, because I was using an XDDM display driver for the IGP9100, the graphics performance was not great (though perfectly OK for stuff like web browsing and MS Office) and of course there was no Aero.

I thought that adding in a decent(ish) PCI graphics card would fix this problem for very little extra money, but that was where it started to get messy...

Change the view so it shows devices by type. Then post another screenshot of system devices. And another of display adapters.

You're welcome.

Sorry, I thought that that would be the most helpful way of presenting the information you asled for. Here you are again as 'Devices by type'.

At this stage every non-essential device is still disabled in the BIOS.

Cheers,
Ian.

Lets get back to the onboard chip for a sec. Can you for now take the 2400 out? and see if we can get the onboard working? Have you tried the driver form the link in my previous post?

Also quick question. does your bios have the option to set IRQ priority ofr you PCI connections?

Hi Ba5ik

I have already got the onboard driver working, using the same XDDM driver that you found. It seems stable and, even though I only get 1.0/1.9 on the Windows Experience Index, performs well enough for web browsing, word processing and the like.

For £35/US$58, though, it seemed worthwhile trying a more modern PCI graphics card in the hope of a bit more graphics performance and being able to turn on the Aero eye-candy. That was how ended up where I am!

The BIOS IRQ options are "Assign IRQ to PCI VGA card if card requests it" which is set to 'YES'.

Other than that I can only set IRQs 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 14 and 15 to either 'AVAILABLE' ("To be used by PCI/PnP devices") or 'RESERVED' ("For use by legacy ISA devices". This seems odd because the system doesn't support ISA...). All of these are set to 'AVAILABLE'.

Ian.

ianbak said:

Sorry, I thought that that would be the most helpful way of presenting the information you asled for. Here you are again as 'Devices by type'.

At this stage every non-essential device is still disabled in the BIOS.

Cheers,
Ian.

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I appreciate the assistance with trying to fix this up but it makes things slightly more difficult and most likely confusing for OP.

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Ian,

See in your second screenshot the error for pci to pci bridge?

Well that's why this isn't working for you.

Update your chipset drivers from the latest offered by manufacturer of motherboard. Also do a bios update to latest. Don't mess with any settings except to make sure Plug and Play OS is set to yes. Perhaps disable ports not in use like serial, parallel, floppy etc....will be helpful.

You should be good to go after. Install the video driver again if needed here.

Let me know. Post further screenshots if you need.

Driver support for his mobo stopped with XP.... Aero desktop is just not going to happen on his system, unfortunately.