System Restore never creates 'am system checkpoint'

My System Restore never automatically creates daily restore points like XP does with those daily 'AM system checkpoint' restore points. So everyday I have to remember to manually create one myself:huh:

What do you guys think about this?

Hi, have you checked the setting in "Control Panel" just to make sure it is enabled for your OS drive?

They also have daily Restore point in Vista and I was sure this was included in earlier builds but it seems they are only created now when installing or uninstalling programs or updates, if you want you can use one of Brinks tutorials that gives you a shortcut on your desktop so you can create an instant restore point.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/494-system-restore-point-shortcut.html?ltr=S

If you are dual booting XP along with 7 each time you boot into XP the 7 points are being wiped automatically. Plus while 7 is still in beta it won't necessarily follow XP's options in particular where you end up needing to create your own manually or when installing an update or new program where one is created there.

I've been running into the same thing but multiboot with Vista along with XP and 7 here at times where XP comes to mind again on that. But the desktop shortcut idea simplifies things by seeing 4 new restore points created in under 4 minutes.

I'm not having the problem of wiped restore points, but I was just looking in task schedular at the Restore point task. It said that it runs a system start and that it ran sucessfully this morning, but when I check the list of available restore points, it is not listed.

Gary

Romulinx2 - Not sure what you mean? Am I sure System Restore is enabled? I use it everyday to manually create restore points, and often use the restore points for various reasons.

Mr Grim - This shortcut helps, but is still not automatic. I wonder if I could set Task Scheduler to run this shortcut.

Night Hawk - not dual booting. It does appear that automatic restore points are indeed not a feature included in this beta.

I can't be the only one experiencing this problem. I've uploaded a screenshot showing my task scheduler settings of System Restore. It should be creating restore points automatically, and it just simply is not doing it.

As you can see, it's set to run at midnight everyday. And it's set to run as soon as possible if it's delayed from the computer not being idle. Sometimes I'm awake after midnight watching movies or whatever on my pc, but I don't stay up and playing on my pc 24/7. The thing should run successfully at some point late at night.

I'll bet everybody has this same problem with build 7000, and I'm the only one that's found it. This always happens to me. I'm really diligent generally speaking about being prepared for things, and I always discover the failure points in systems before anyone else. It kind of sucks being me sometimes:huh:

The only restore points seen on the 7000 builds here are those made manually or by an installer. So far with the 32bit 7 Ultimate setup to boot with XP and Vista alike I also take notice if 7 points are lost as well as Vista's.

The next boot into XP will see if 7 is still vulnerable since I just made several more using the shortcut method. As far as the usual automatic creation of points you are not alone as I mentioned before about 7 still being a beta release not a finished version.

Right now it is simply a testing and evalution as well as development stage not a retail full featured version with everything working like you would see in XP or Vista presently. Too often people seem to forget that one little detail expecting to see a regular version ready for use when it's not ready until done and marketed.

Hello.


This is the third system/OS (two different machines) that does not create restore points automatically; the first was an OEM HP machine with 32-bit Vista Home P, the second and third are this system with 64-bit Vista Ultimate and now Windows 7 7048 installed (none of the earlier builds did either); none of which ever creates restore points except when I create them with the afore mentioned tutorials.

There's also THIS to stop the XP dual boot delete of restore points.











Later :shock: Ted

Well, what about using that tutorial to create the shortcut, and then running the shortcut as a daily task in the task scheduler? Is that possible?

Bare Foot Kid said:

Hello.


This is the third system/OS (two different machines) that does not create restore points automatically; the first was an OEM HP machine with 32-bit Vista Home P, the second and third are this system with 64-bit Vista Ultimate and now Windows 7 7048 installed (none of the earlier builds did either); none of which ever creates restore points except when I create them with the afore mentioned tutorials.

There's also THIS to stop the XP dual boot delete of restore points.











Later :shock: Ted

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I'm familiar with another method while the free tool for that intended for Vista/XP dual boots is still in it's own beta form apparently placed on hold by the looks of it. [ame="http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1341"][Download] Vista Hide 'n Seek BETA - The NeoSmart Forums[/ame]

The MS page there is also one consideration while not wishing to make Vista or 7 invisible while booted in XP for various reasons. But that means still putting up with...



NOT SO GOOD:
The registry entry seen at the MS page as well as the instant restore point mod unfortunately failed here and still sees Vista and 7 points wiped. 7 presently being seen as D with Vista on another as G didn't help there.

After confirming the entry was seen in the XP registry both the 7 and Vista primaries were still accessible not off limits according to the MS page.

Camineet said:

Well, what about using that tutorial to create the shortcut, and then running the shortcut as a daily task in the task scheduler? Is that possible?

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Hello Camineet.


I know that this can be done as a written script, but this is something that I have never taken the time to figure out as it's just easier to add THIS (Option One, #2) to the start menu, startup folder to create a restore point at boot up, I also have a shortcut for this on the desktop to create a restore point with one click.

Night Hawk said:

I'm familiar with another method while the free tool for that intended for Vista/XP dual boots is still in it's own beta form apparently placed on hold by the looks of it. [Download] Vista Hide 'n Seek BETA - The NeoSmart Forums

The MS page there is also one consideration while not wishing to make Vista or 7 invisible while booted in XP for various reasons. But that means still putting up with...



NOT SO GOOD:
The registry entry seen at the MS page as well as the instant restore point mod unfortunately failed here and still sees Vista and 7 points wiped. 7 presently being seen as D with Vista on another as G didn't help there.

After confirming the entry was seen in the XP registry both the 7 and Vista primaries were still accessible not off limits according to the MS page.

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Hello Night Hawk.


I've known about this and I've been wanting to give the MS info a go, but I have so much going on now it's hard to find the time to start something new, besides, I'm afraid XP is a dying entity.

Thank you for the input.


Later :shock: Ted

Hi Bare Foot Kid,

A script is necessary? That doesn't sound quite right. I'm no expert, but I would think that any shortcut should successfully run.

Just to get my hands dirty and get some first time experience with Task Scheduler, I created a shortcut of an mp3 song. Then I created a new task and added an action. The action was to run a program. I clicked browse and chose the shortcut to the mp3 song. Then in the list of tasks I right clicked the newly created task and enabled it. Then I right clicked it and chose Run. The song played.

Why won't the Create Restore Point shortcut work without a script?:sarc:

One more thing I should add - unless I'm reading your message wrong, I should mention that I really want to have Restore Points be automatically created without me having to restart my system.

Thanks for your help so far.

Camineet said:

Why won't the Create Restore Point shortcut work without a script?:sarc:

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Hello again.


There's one way to find out, give it a go; but if it takes you "one" click to activate the task, wouldn't it be easier to just use the instant restore point creator I linked? That way you could have a point created at boot up and a shortcut on the desktop as well for use when needed.

Be sure to keep us informed what you come up with!






Later Ted

What I mean is, that I would like to use the tutorial you linked. And then once I have that shortcut, I'd like to create a task that is scheduled to run everyday at a certain time. It seems to me like it should work, but I would like to have gotten some kind of confirmation from a qualified expert or at least someone with more expertise than me, which is most anyone on this kind of forum.

I've become so fearful of installations that I exhaust all possible inquiries before actually 'just trying things'. But I guess that's what I'll be doing on this one.

As far as the value of the shortcut goes, I'm not so convinced. It's another installation on top of all the other apps I need in order to run my company and enjoy media on my pc, and all this additional installation does is save me the trouble of hitting the start key and typing 'create restore point' and then clicking a few more times and typing in a name. I'd prefer the extra 5 clicks or so if I'm going to do a manual create restore point. But since I really need my system to be automatically creating 'am system checkpoints' like 'ole XP did for me, I'm willing to install this script and create a scheduled task from the shortcut it generates.

Not that I wish to differ with you for any reason. I'm just making some intelligent(?) debate about the value of the script

Hello.


Don't be concerned about having a different opinion, you know what is said about opinions ...

Seriously, I tried all you're working on in my old 32-bit Vista to no avail; I never did get it to create restore points on its own and I tried everything. Who knows, Windows 7 may be different than Vista in that it will create restore points through the task scheduler as it's supposed to do.


Like I said, I'll be interested to see your outcome.










Later Ted

Bare Foot Kid said:

Hello Night Hawk.


I've known about this and I've been wanting to give the MS info a go, but I have so much going on now it's hard to find the time to start something new, besides, I'm afraid XP is a dying entity.

Thank you for the input.


Later :shock: Ted

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Unfortunately I still need XP running here since the tuner card industry never bother to write softwares for seeing video recorded or captured in Vista. I'm able to get the picture and sound working on 7 as well as Vista with the updated driver but forget about the software side!

For the instant restore point mod I pinned the shortcut to the 7 taskbar and no go there. Instead you see a script icon appear and nothing happens when clicked. Repeat sets of restore points still get wiped for the weekly boot into XP while Vista and 7 are the default OSs on each drive depending which is set as default.

The other mentioned before hides Vista from XP making any Vista partition vanish from view. That seems to how that protects Vista restore points. Here however I still want access to Vista and 7 partitions for moving copy files back and forth for various programs being tried out on 7 without a major fuss. So much for restore points however.

Hello Night Hawk.


According to this, restore points are only viable for a short period of time. Besides, every time I've needed a restore point, it's something that I've just fubared right then so I don't ever have need of "old" points anyway.

System Restore "restore points" are missing or deleted













Later :shock: Ted

Bare Foot Kid said:

Hello Night Hawk.


According to this, restore points are only viable for a short period of time. Besides, every time I've needed a restore point, it's something that I've just fubared right then so I don't ever have need of "old" points anyway.

System Restore "restore points" are missing or deleted













Later :shock: Ted

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You know that as well as I do. I used to dual boot with older versions where there were no restore points to even consider! 3.1/95, 95/98, later 98/XP followed by the XP/Vista now XP/Vista/7 etc.

I was simply pointing out that nothing seems to prevent loss with custom setups across more then one drve apparently. It would have been nice to see 7 get past that problem however.

Task scheduler service hung and will not start or stop

The Task Scheduler service along with all of it's dependent services will not stop or start.
Related services are
RPC call
DCOM launcher

This was observed right after a clean install and before anything else was done.


I presume this is the reason I dont get a daily system restore and maybe why the reliability monitor is not working.

Windows 7 x64

Anybody seen this or have a solution.