Windows 7 extremely slow on startup!!!!

Tiran Inside

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Hi guys!
I really got worried when i saw my pc booting up so slowly, because i have a good performing pc. After it boots up it runs fine, But the bootup process is so slow.
I have a: WEI score:
Asus P5QL-E p45 chipset.
Intel Q6600 2.4 ghz 7.1
2 Gb ram 5.5
NVidia 9600GT 1Gb GDDR3 6.8
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus
OS
Windows 7 Retail
CPU
Intel q6600 2.4 ghz
Motherboard
Asus p5ql-e
Memory
2 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia 9600 gt 1 gb ddr3
Sound Card
Realtek Alc1200
Monitor(s) Displays
asus vw193d-b
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Internet Speed
1 mb/s
Besides an increase in overall performance you could see depending if that's the 32bit or 64bit 7 bumping the memory upto 4gb one question would be how much as far as programs and startups do you have running?

One article just seen goes into how to see things speed up in 7 while only 2 or 3 free programs pointed to seem to be what is claimed in the one seen at Essential Windows Tricks - PC World

The yeas outnumbered the naaa...s it seems hhmm... as you look over the 4 pages seen there.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
Thanks for the reply!
Well actually i found a way, it really speeds it up.
For anyone who dont know it, just enable all cpu cores for windows to use during startup.
type winlogo+run
msconfig
boot
select the maximum number of cores.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus
OS
Windows 7 Retail
CPU
Intel q6600 2.4 ghz
Motherboard
Asus p5ql-e
Memory
2 gb
Graphics Card(s)
nvidia 9600 gt 1 gb ddr3
Sound Card
Realtek Alc1200
Monitor(s) Displays
asus vw193d-b
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Internet Speed
1 mb/s
Thanks for the reply!
Well actually i found a way, it really speeds it up.
For anyone who dont know it, just enable all cpu cores for windows to use during startup.
type winlogo+run
msconfig
boot
select the maximum number of cores.

You just taught me something. TY.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
Thanks for the reply!
Well actually i found a way, it really speeds it up.
For anyone who dont know it, just enable all cpu cores for windows to use during startup.
type winlogo+run
msconfig
boot
select the maximum number of cores.

You just taught me something. TY.
Second that. Looks like I need to do some testing. :)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600K OC'd @ 4620 MHz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
Memory
16GB GSkill Sniper 2133 Mhz (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2x Acer S273HLbmii 27"
Screen Resolution
2 x 1920x1080
Hard Drives
64GB Crucial M4 SSD

Storage: Hitachi 1TB 5400RPM, Samsung 1.5TB 5400RPM
PSU
Corsair HW Series 750w (modular)
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition
Cooling
CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler, 3x 230mm + 1x 140mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK320 (wireless)
Mouse
Logitech MK320 (wireless)
Internet Speed
30 Mb/s : 2 Mb/s
The two cpu setting for dual core cpus is nothing new here actually. But once you set it and forget it you tend to overlook it! :shock::D

You simply clck on the boot tab>advanced options and set the number of processors to 2 there. About a pair of the freebies in the article seem to be worth a look while others are a bit cumbersome. The reg edit for the Aero Peek does help for showing the desktop? but not speeding Windows up.

The two main things mentioned there take note of however is the MS Security Essentials and "Create a System-Repair Disc"!!!

How often do you hear someone complaining they can't get Windows to even load let alone simply be starting up a bit slower once everything is loaded on? For those with laptops or simply without any recovery disk for a preinstalled 7 on a new desktop 7 now sees that option included!

Sometimes that may even help when Windows is loading slower then normal for some reasong where the startup repair is needed to correct a problem. If you don't a burner or lack any optical drive like having a second HD in a laptop you write an iso repair disk image to a usb flash drive to keep onhand. The same people that came up with EasyBCD also have some repair disk images available. Download Windows 7 System Recovery Discs — The NeoSmart Files
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
But once you set it and forget it you tend to overlook it! :shock::D
And would that be a problem, as you'd think to get a faster boot time you'd want to set it and forget it?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Sony Vaio FZ21Z
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ®™
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo (2.2 GHz)
Motherboard
Sony (Intel Chipset)
Memory
2x 2GB Corsair (667 MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 8600M GS (256MB)
Sound Card
Sigmatel
Monitor(s) Displays
15.4" TFT X-Black
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
Western Digital 300GB Scorpio Black (7200rpm)
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
Sky 5MB

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
Tweaks

Tweaks can only accomplish so much if you want a truly fast computer shell out the money and get good hardware.

If you want fast start up get a good hard drive setup like a 10,000 or 15,000 RPM hard drive or RAID
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Overclocked to 3.0Ghz
Motherboard
Biostar TF560 A2+
Memory
2 Gigs of G.Skill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro With IceQ cooler
Sound Card
6.1 Channel Sound Blaster Live 24 Bit
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 20.5 " LG Flatrons W2052TO
Screen Resolution
1152x864
Hard Drives
Dual 36 Gig 10,000 RPM Raptors
PSU
430 watt Seasonic 80%+ Dual 12v Rails 2x80mm fans
Case
CHIEFMAX YA-5X
Cooling
4-80mm case fans 1-140mm case fan freezer 64 Pro CPU cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Eclipse II
Mouse
A4Tech wireless battery free optical scroll mouse
Internet Speed
1.5 meg down 384 up
Other Info
Logisys LED fan/light controller and dual 16" LED sticks mounted inside top of case all fans are LED all lighting is blue
DVD RW and CD RW both and Memory card reader
RAID isn't fast! SCSI on the other hand was what offered speed. Raid is simply a more stable data management since you are mirroring each drive. If one drive fails or sees some problem however... :eek::sick:

With Raptors being the high speed drives there you have the drawback of smaller drives. Eventually SSDs will start seeing larger capacities and lower prices more affordable! to gain the performance benefits once all the bugs are worked in a sense.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
RAID

speed depends on the RAID level your using.... and VelociRaptors are available in 300 gigs with a much better finned case for heat transfer now
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Overclocked to 3.0Ghz
Motherboard
Biostar TF560 A2+
Memory
2 Gigs of G.Skill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
HIS ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro With IceQ cooler
Sound Card
6.1 Channel Sound Blaster Live 24 Bit
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 20.5 " LG Flatrons W2052TO
Screen Resolution
1152x864
Hard Drives
Dual 36 Gig 10,000 RPM Raptors
PSU
430 watt Seasonic 80%+ Dual 12v Rails 2x80mm fans
Case
CHIEFMAX YA-5X
Cooling
4-80mm case fans 1-140mm case fan freezer 64 Pro CPU cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Eclipse II
Mouse
A4Tech wireless battery free optical scroll mouse
Internet Speed
1.5 meg down 384 up
Other Info
Logisys LED fan/light controller and dual 16" LED sticks mounted inside top of case all fans are LED all lighting is blue
DVD RW and CD RW both and Memory card reader
The Raid level being that there is four of those will definitely play a role there. In fact I just came across the latest report by the U.S. National Library of Medicine you would be interested in on this. "Is the Bang Worth the Buck?: A RAID Performance Study"

Abstract

Expecting a high data delivery rate as well as data protection, the Lister Hill National Center for Biomedical Communications procured a RAID system to house image files for image delivery applications. A study was undertaken to determine the configuration of the RAID system that would provide for the fastest retrieval of image files. Average retrieval times with single and with concurrent users were measured for several stripe widths and several numbers of disks for RAID levels 0, 0+1 and 5. These are compared to each other and to average retrieval times for non-RAID configurations of the same hardware. Although the study in ongoing, a few conclusions have emerged regarding the tradeoffs among the different configurations with respect to file retrieval speed and cost.

Rationale and goals

The Lister Hill National Center for Biomedical Communications, a research and development division of the National Library of Medicine, procured a Sun SPARCstorage Array (SSA), model 101, to house image files for prototype image delivery applications. The SSA model 101 is configured with eighteen Seagate ST31200W 1.05 GB disks connected to six internal fast wide SCSI busses. The SSA is connected to a Sun SPARCstation 20 via a Fiber Channel port. SPARCstorage Volume Manager software supports use of the SSA as independent volumes or as:

RAID 0: Data is split into equal sized blocks, or stripes, and distributed among the disks in the RAID volume.
RAID 1: All data in a volume are duplicated on the mirror volume.
RAID 0+1: Both the original volume and the mirror volume are striped.
RAID 5: In Addition to data blocks, RAID Level 5 includes parity blocks, which are distributed among the disks in the RAID volume [1,2].

The specifications of the Seagate disks[3] in the SSA cite a data transfer rate of 3.3 to 5.9 MB/sec. The fast wide SCSI interface has a data transfer rate of 20 MB/sec, and the Fiber Channel connector has a data transfer rate of 25 to 50 MB/sec. Those specifications the following statements from a technical white paper led us to expect very high data retrieval rates in addition to the data security available from RAID.
  • "Each of the disks in a stripe are generally assumed to be on their own independent data channel, allowing the transfer rate of a RAID 0 implementation to approach the sum of the transfer rates of each of the drives." [4]
  • "Both SPARCstorage Array models ... are capable of over 2000 two-KB input-output operations per second, and sustained transfer rates exceeding 15 MB/second."[4]
The rest of that is seen at Is the Bang Worth the Buck?: A RAID Performance Study being in regards to Seagate drives there.

The problem looked at here lately however wasn't speed alone for the main drive but capacity as well. 300gb? How about seeing 500gb drives fill up too fast? Before taking the leap into WD RE Enterprise drives I went with a 1tb WD Black Edition model being the top in the Caviar line there.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
I set my cores to 4 and windows failed to load ? Did anyone else have this issue ? I had to re-set it back in safe mode .. But Now in msconfig , I can only select 2 cores ? I do have a quad core q9550 processor .
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro - 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7 2600K
Motherboard
Asus P8P67
Memory
8 Gig ddr3 1600 mhz - viper extreme (Patriot)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 980 TI
Monitor(s) Displays
2 - Lg 21" LED , sony 48 " bravia LED
Hard Drives
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RAID

What cost most budget motherboards have RIAD built in and even if you only use a couple of 7200 RPM drives they would still yield better performance than a single drive.

As for the storage capacity 300 gigs by todays standards is not huge but surely not small either you can have a 10,000 RPM Raptor for your OS and a 1TB 7200 RPM for storage.

I actually use two 36 gig Raptors and have enough storage having large drives for your OS is not all it's cracked up anyway you will see the best performance from smaller drives where the data is closer to the outside tracks rather than a larger drive with a lot of data on it the head has to move farther across the surface of the disk to fetch the data so all is not what it seems.
 

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More space to traverse or more platters in the drive? Larger capacity generally means more platters along with larger capcity platters. When deciding on any drive you have to know what type of system the drive will go in as well. Larger capacity drives doesn't mean wider disk platters.

Actually the new WD GPower 2tb drive is seeing faster read and write times tne 1tb GP model. A set of comparison charts on that can be seen at Access Time And I/O Performance - Review Tom's Hardware : New Desktop Hard Drives: Speed Or Capacity?

When you say 36gb Raptors those would be pointless here since in one week's time the new host drive already see well over 100gb on it. Perhaps a look at one thing that goes onto it will explain itself and where drive space becomes a commidity depending again on what type of system you run and the programs/files you have on it. Try not to break out in hysterics! :D
 

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More space to traverse or more platters in the drive? Larger capacity generally means more platters along with larger capcity platters. When deciding on any drive you have to know what type of system the drive will go in as well. Larger capacity drives doesn't mean wider disk platters.:D

I think you misunderstand me a tad what I meant is if you have the need for such a large drive chances are you will have a lot of data on the inner tracks of the platter better performance usually comes from keeping data closer to the outer tracks so using a 750 gig OS drive defeats the purpose.

The two 36 gig Raptors work in tandom very well I keep the OS drive to a minimum and put other stuff I use frequently on the second one and nightly backups get sent to NAS
 

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The OS goes on before anything else as a rule. Drive indexing enabled or disabled will have an effect on access times. As far as the type of drive that again depends on the type of system you run. But even that is only one part of how fast Windows starts up.
 

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Agreed

I agree there are factors that play into raw access times.

My only point was really that in order to get the fastest startups possible there's no better way than to have a 10,000 RPM SATA hard drive or 15,000 SCSI hard drive as apposed to an 7200 RPM drive

Honestly though I can't bring myself to spend the money on a 15,000 RPM SCSI setup the 10,000 RPM SATA setup costs enough as it is....I am surprised that the 10,000 RPM drives have not gotten any lower in price by now.
 

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Actually SCSI was at one time the optimal choice but now lingers on for server storage and not applicable for desktops at this point with hard drives having come a long ways over the last several years. For high end builds were performance is critical not only for starting Windows up but while running programs mainly on gaming builds the higher prices for Raptors is accepted in order to see premium performance overall.

Speaking of prices it will be something when the 2tb drives come down in price to where the 1tb presently are seen. The pair of 1tb drives used for storage here each see over 500gb used up with one 3/4s full. This is from backing things up from smaller OS drives lacking work space for various projects here where drive space becomes a premium.

On the other hand for those running few programs and not requiring large capacity on the OS drive like you have indicated they can take advantage of the smaller higher speeds even with SSDs for the price of course.
 

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Right

Yes the Raptor prices are accepted but it would be nice if they were a little more affordable I would like to replace mine the two I am using are getting old and I would like to replace them before a failure plus these are the 8MB cache and the newer ones are 16MB and that is another odd thing you see so many 32MB cache drives now i find it a bit odd they have not added to the cache on the Raptors.

The SSD's have a ways to go before I would consider them a mainstream option both in development and price but the overall performance gain sure is interesting plus less power consumption and lower heat makes them ideal for laptop/netbook applications
 

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HIS ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro With IceQ cooler
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4-80mm case fans 1-140mm case fan freezer 64 Pro CPU cooler
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