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Hi,
My laptop has had 1 year of what I would call "heavy" use. Although it has been plugged into the wall all its life (1 year) the battery is now dying in under 10 minutes. This really sucks as it means I lose the portability of my laptop. I don't have any way of getting money for a new laptop at the moment and I'm not spending $150 to get a new battery. I'm kinda stuck. What should I do?
 

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Fastboy42 said:
Hi,
My laptop has had 1 year of what I would call "heavy" use. Although it has been plugged into the wall all its life (1 year) the battery is now dying in under 10 minutes. This really sucks as it means I lose the portability of my laptop. I don't have any way of getting money for a new laptop at the moment and I'm not spending $150 to get a new battery. I'm kinda stuck. What should I do?
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what kind of battery is it?
 

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there is a 80mm(8cm) intake fan on the side of the case and a 120mm(12cm) fan as exaust
Fastboy42 said:
Although it has been plugged into the wall all its life
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And that's just where you went wrong, you never run a laptop long term on charge or it screws the battery :rolleyes:
 

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OK time for drastic action ;)

If possible backup and image your system - better safe than sorry

Use the powerconfig options/Power management in the control panel to switch off all warnings and especially actions related to battery level.

Charge the battery to full

Run the laptop on battery until it dies through lack of battery.

re-charge the battery

Repeat the run until die stage

Hopefully after charge you should see some improvement

Reset the power options to protect you in normal use ;)

In future always run the system on battery at least once a week preferably until it runs down to the switch off stage. (this is not the drastic type as above but the controlled type at 5% remaining )

Also if you are buying a battery - As the laptop manufacturers buy in a battery rather than manufacture it, it is possible to obtain generic spares, often at a considerable saving - just check out any company before dealing with them.
 

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ok, thanks guys. I have been running it flat atleast once a week though, or do I need to just run it off battery as much as possible?
 

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The problem here is that windows in default mode will not allow you to run the battery to a fully discharged state, when It thinks that the battery is exhausted it will shut down the system. if Windows is picking up a confused reading from the battery software it may well shut down the system when there is charge left.

The process you need to do is the condition the battery, which is done by disabling the windows monitoring software and using the system until it actually runs out and stops - this is like pulling the plug on a desktop system so is not a good idea for normal use ;)

What I tend to do is run some sort of high power application - (Play a music CD) - that will not be damaged by "pulling the plug"

After you have conditioned the battery you should try to run on battery at least once a week, (untill the battery hits the warning level), to keep the batter conditioned

I must add of course that for your case this may be to late but it is definitely worth a try
 

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This is some really good information. Thanks a lot man.
 

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Just to let you know, I mananged to get a new battery for $9 NZ. It should be here soon. I will tell you what its like
 

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Barman58 said:
OK time for drastic action ;)

If possible backup and image your system - better safe than sorry

Use the powerconfig options/Power management in the control panel to switch off all warnings and especially actions related to battery level.

Charge the battery to full

Run the laptop on battery until it dies through lack of battery.

re-charge the battery

Repeat the run until die stage

Hopefully after charge you should see some improvement

Reset the power options to protect you in normal use ;)

In future always run the system on battery at least once a week preferably until it runs down to the switch off stage. (this is not the drastic type as above but the controlled type at 5% remaining )

Also if you are buying a battery - As the laptop manufacturers buy in a battery rather than manufacture it, it is possible to obtain generic spares, often at a considerable saving - just check out any company before dealing with them.
Click to expand...

Now see I been asking this same question for so long now its unbelievable. And you gave the answer. that is so freaking great. My battery been dieing out really quick anymore and losing life and ivce only had tyhis for 3 months. It went from3 hour battery life down to 2 hour battery life. So tonight im going to condition it and see if i can get my battery life back. Maybe even get more life out of it.


And where did yo get a spare for $9 at FB???
 

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For future reference, you should NEVER keep a laptop plugged in for that long. The battery won't be able to hold a charge anymore after a few weeks to a month. Personal experience.
 

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Agreed. I now drain my battery once a week. Best I can do really as I don't have a spare and/or a battery replacement cover -- really wish manufacturers would supply this in the box!
 

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One other thing that you can do on some modern laptops if you are using them in a fixed location is to remove the battery completely and run from the mains alone.

This will not work with all systems but is an option for those that allow it :D
 

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Barman58 said:
One other thing that you can do on some modern laptops if you are using them in a fixed location is to remove the battery completely and run from the mains alone.

This will not work with all systems but is an option for those that allow it :D
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Nigel hi.. I have a 2 parter Question..
Will that work on my new Acer laptop?.( battery info above... just working on the power supply /adapter..with the router/modem). or tell me where to look I'll try to report back to you.

Also what was the program that Windows 7 suggests to use to make the image of my working system as it is now ? in case I must have to re-install it at some point.
I need to make that .. since I've not, done it yet.
Was it you who suggested I do this when I first was getting it on line?
I'm not sure....if this needs to be in a new thread .. we can do that also.
Feel free to move it and let me know plz.
Thanks again.:)
 

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Hi LPT1

The working without the battery is simple to check - shut down your laptop, remove the battery, ensure the charger is plugged in and switched on, and start the laptop - if it works then that's it, if not then it's not a supported option.

It does work with my Acer NetbookOne so it will likely work with other acer products with a clip in battery.

As for the Image backup - refer to Shawn's tutorial here ...
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
If you have any questions on this, post them in that thread
 

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LADYPINKtomato1 said:
Barman58 said:
One other thing that you can do on some modern laptops if you are using them in a fixed location is to remove the battery completely and run from the mains alone.

This will not work with all systems but is an option for those that allow it :D
Click to expand...

Nigel hi.. I have a 2 parter Question..
Will that work on my new Acer laptop?.( battery info above... just working on the power supply /adapter..with the router/modem). or tell me where to look I'll try to report back to you.

Also what was the program that Windows 7 suggests to use to make the image of my working system as it is now ? in case I must have to re-install it at some point.
I need to make that .. since I've not, done it yet.
Was it you who suggested I do this when I first was getting it on line?
I'm not sure....if this needs to be in a new thread .. we can do that also.
Feel free to move it and let me know plz.
Thanks again.:)
Click to expand...

1) Yup, should work. Just pull out the battery and run off the AC power alone. When you want to move around, put the battery back in (even if the laptop is already on) and unplug the AC.

2) Control Panel -> Backup And Restore (make sure you're not in "Category" view) -> Create a System Image. Alternatively, you can just search "Backup" in the Start menu.
 

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Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
1TB - Primary
160GB - Secondary
250GB - External backup for important files
PSU
OCZ Fata1ty 700W Modular PSU
Case
ASUS
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
3 Mbps/768 kbps
Barman58 said:
Hi LPT1

The working without the battery is simple to check - shut down your laptop, remove the battery, ensure the charger is plugged in and switched on, and start the laptop - if it works then that's it, if not then it's not a supported option.

It does work with my Acer NetbookOne so it will likely work with other acer products with a clip in battery.

As for the Image backup - refer to Shawn's tutorial here ...
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
If you have any questions on this, post them in that thread
Click to expand...

Nigel thank you so very much.. I'll do this as soon asI can eat dinner and get back to the laptop..
Ok on the link .. any idea how long that might take.. I really don't have that much on here yet.. Question.. I suppose I should go ahead and back programs I've not activates too ? I have some of those .
thanks bunches.:)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 8 - 64-bit2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor...8GB DDR3Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated sys...
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop
OS
Windows 8 - 64-bit
CPU
2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive
PSU
Intel B960 processor
Case
XXXXX
Cooling
XXXXX
Keyboard
Multi Gesture Touchpad
Mouse
USB - portable mouse... I added this
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
I E 10
Other Info
I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN

•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
Product FRED hi.. thanks bunches.. for your reply.. :) I'm greatful for help.. since I know very little about this laptop.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 8 - 64-bit2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor...8GB DDR3Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated sys...
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop
OS
Windows 8 - 64-bit
CPU
2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive
PSU
Intel B960 processor
Case
XXXXX
Cooling
XXXXX
Keyboard
Multi Gesture Touchpad
Mouse
USB - portable mouse... I added this
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
I E 10
Other Info
I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN

•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
LADYPINKtomato1 said:
Barman58 said:
Hi LPT1

The working without the battery is simple to check - shut down your laptop, remove the battery, ensure the charger is plugged in and switched on, and start the laptop - if it works then that's it, if not then it's not a supported option.

It does work with my Acer NetbookOne so it will likely work with other acer products with a clip in battery.

As for the Image backup - refer to Shawn's tutorial here ...
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
If you have any questions on this, post them in that thread
Click to expand...

Nigel thank you so very much.. I'll do this as soon asI can eat dinner and get back to the laptop..
Ok on the link .. any idea how long that might take.. I really don't have that much on here yet.. Question.. I suppose I should go ahead and back programs I've not activates too ? I have some of those .
thanks bunches.:)
Click to expand...
LPt, like Nigel, Mae Lyne has an Acer note book. The battery is in the refrigerator. She runs on the adapter/charger all of the time. About once a month, we put the battery in and run it down to the warning, fully recharge it, and put it back in the refrigerator.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
Cooling
Fan based
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
Internet Speed
3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
Carl hi..oops Carl.. thanks.. I just removed the battery.. (saw a reminder there was ONLY 7% left..) so I removed it.. ..
YES... this is working just fine on the adapter /power.. plugged in.

Now I must close down.. put the battery back in and fully charge it up again.. then Discharege it again.. Right ??

Next... I should totally discharge it once again.. then Re-charge it up again.. Next.. remove it and take it to the Ref?.. did you put the battery in a bag... such a new zip-lock bag ?
Thank you so much.:)
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 8 - 64-bit2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor...8GB DDR3Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated sys...
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop
OS
Windows 8 - 64-bit
CPU
2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive
PSU
Intel B960 processor
Case
XXXXX
Cooling
XXXXX
Keyboard
Multi Gesture Touchpad
Mouse
USB - portable mouse... I added this
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
I E 10
Other Info
I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN

•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
Carl..Ok am back.. battery is in.. I'm charging it to the full capacity..( I'm powered now with the adapter/charger..)

Next I should run it totally down to the 5% ..then do this once again ?..then remove the battery and store it in the refrigerator ?...did you cover it or use a bag to seal it from things in the ref?

Maybe we should go over and make a NEW thread on this ?..let me know please.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 8 - 64-bit2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor...8GB DDR3Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated sys...
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop
OS
Windows 8 - 64-bit
CPU
2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 X 1024
Hard Drives
1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive
PSU
Intel B960 processor
Case
XXXXX
Cooling
XXXXX
Keyboard
Multi Gesture Touchpad
Mouse
USB - portable mouse... I added this
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
I E 10
Other Info
I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN

•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
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