The Rogue Antivirus that survives through a format

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Hi guyz.

Today, someone called me that they had a problem with their computer. They explained the problem and I concluded that it was a rogue antivirus.

I presented myself at their home and saw it : there were NO way that I could access the machine. The rogue antivirus took over the machine completely : even in Safe Mode. Since the mister wanted his computer backed up quickly, we all decided to format it. He had XP Home on a Sempron and 440MB of RAM.

So, I booted up my CLEAN SP2 CD I had. I used this CD multiple times before so I'm positive that it was clean. Formatted (quick format...) then re-installed Windows without a hitch.

First boot, checked if I could access the net, yes I could. Then, I proceed to find the drivers. Downloaded the Chipset, installed reboot. A-OK. Then, installed the Audio-driver then rebooted.

Upon rebooting, his old wallapaper appeared with the rogue antivirus were back on!!!!! I never EVER saw that before.

The mister, upon seeing this, was really irritated and called the guy that did his PC before. I HIGHLY doubt he will be able to have his computer back back for tomorrow.

I have my hypothesis as for why it came back... it created a very hidden partition with a system image somehow. Well, anyway... I'm stumped. Really, I am.

Btw, the rogue antivirus was a variant of "VirusProtectPro". It loads on boot and take the whole screen. We can't close it, we can't stop it. Even with ALT-F4, we can't see the desktop because it doesn't load - even in Safe Mode.
 

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In a case like this I would erase the whole disk with a linux distro (# shred) and then reinstall. But that was a real nasty one.
 

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As if there wasn't enough to worry about already. A Sempron machine gained control.
Best of luck with the format.
 

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whs said:
In a case like this I would erase the whole disk with a linux distro (# shred) and then reinstall. But that was a real nasty one.
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Agreed, download an iso for the live ubuntu CD, run GParted after booting up the cd, and wipe the drive clean.
 

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Now that's what i call a nasty one. Any ideas of were he acquired it from? Fabe Fabe
 

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DarkNovaGamer said:
whs said:
In a case like this I would erase the whole disk with a linux distro (# shred) and then reinstall. But that was a real nasty one.
Click to expand...

Agreed, download an iso for the live ubuntu CD, run GParted after booting up the cd, and wipe the drive clean.
Click to expand...
When I leave the house and suspect to get near a PC, I always put my Fedora on the stick into my pocket. Has helped me already a few times. A man needs tools.
 

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thefabe said:
Any ideas of were he acquired it from? Fabe Fabe
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I'm not too sure myself...

Anyway, the guy ditched me because the virus re-appeared after wiping the disc during the install like I said in the first post. I'm a pro-Windows so getting a Linux disc before hand was really not a thing I would thought of.

Next time, I will bring UBCD and get the hard-drive get 0'ed using a third party tool included.

Like I said, I highly doubt he'll have his computer ready tonight... even if it's another guy doing it.
 

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I'm a fan of Active KILLDISK....
 

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Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a good option that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers

Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe and Data Clearing

DBAN is a means of ensuring due diligence in computer recycling, a way of preventing identity theft if you want to sell a computer, and a good way to totally clean a Microsoft Windows installation of viruses and spyware. DBAN prevents or thoroughly hinders all known techniques of hard disk forensic analysis.
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in the OS installer just deleting all partitions and/or rewrite partition-info-file-thingy and creating a new partition may do the trick... but good idea I should get together a bootable repair drive.
 

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thathagat said:
Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a good option that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers

Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe and Data Clearing

DBAN is a means of ensuring due diligence in computer recycling, a way of preventing identity theft if you want to sell a computer, and a good way to totally clean a Microsoft Windows installation of viruses and spyware. DBAN prevents or thoroughly hinders all known techniques of hard disk forensic analysis.
Click to expand...
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I have used this with great success, but never tried it against a Virus.

I believe it simply writes over the ENTIRE drive with 0s or something, basically irrevocably deleting everything.

~Lordbob
 

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Lordbob75 said:
thathagat said:
Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a good option that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers

Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe and Data Clearing

DBAN is a means of ensuring due diligence in computer recycling, a way of preventing identity theft if you want to sell a computer, and a good way to totally clean a Microsoft Windows installation of viruses and spyware. DBAN prevents or thoroughly hinders all known techniques of hard disk forensic analysis.
Click to expand...
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I have used this with great success, but never tried it against a Virus.

I believe it simply writes over the ENTIRE drive with 0s or something, basically irrevocably deleting everything.

~Lordbob
Click to expand...
it runs off of a Linux kernel and you are right, everything is zeroed.
 

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This is soo strange. I've spent all day on a very similar problem on an XP box. A workmate brought his PC in complaining of very slow web page loading. It booted fine but yes, internet was sluggish even on my work network. He had AVG installed. I tried to update but it was greyed out! I downloaded the latest version from the web and started the install. It got to a point where it needed to connect to the internet but couldn't! It told me to click "next" but there was no next! Only back and close!
I tried to install NOD32. Nope! He was infected with a beauty. Tried safe mode. No good, just continual restarts but it would boot fine normally. I tried a repair install. It got to loading devices but then claimed not to be able to copy a file. I hit browse and the file was there but it insisted it wasn't. This happened for about 20 files I tried! Big problems.
Fired up Ubuntu..no probs. Backed up his data. Wiped the drive with GParted and fresh install of XP. Had all the usual fun of finding drivers, installing hundreds of updates etc. I started at 9:30am and I'm still going now at 5:18pm!! He's gone home and left the PC here (I'm always here late anyway). Seems his teenage kids (who were set as Administrators!!) weren't too picky about what they downloaded or where they downloaded from. The machine was riddled with viruses. I'm going to have a serious talk with him when I see him next. Also, the case is full of dust! It amazes me that people just assume they can use their PCs for as long as they want, with no maintenance and expect it to work just like it did the day they bought it. They'll have their cars serviced regularly but it never enters their mind that their PC might need a little care from time to time....(rant over!!! :hot:)
 
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thathagat said:
Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a good option that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers

Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe and Data Clearing

DBAN is a means of ensuring due diligence in computer recycling, a way of preventing identity theft if you want to sell a computer, and a good way to totally clean a Microsoft Windows installation of viruses and spyware. DBAN prevents or thoroughly hinders all known techniques of hard disk forensic analysis.
Click to expand...
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Yeah, too bad that I thought about it too late :(
Oh well, next time, I'll use that for sure.
 

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tw33k said:
This is soo strange. I've spent all day on a very similar problem on an XP box. A workmate brought his PC in complaining of very slow web page loading. It booted fine but yes, internet was sluggish even on my work network. He had AVG installed. I tried to update but it was greyed out! I downloaded the latest version from the web and started the install. It got to a point where it needed to connect to the internet but couldn't! It told me to click "next" but there was no next! Only back and close!
I tried to install NOD32. Nope! He was infected with a beauty. Tried safe mode. No good, just continual restarts but it would boot fine normally. I tried a repair install. It got to loading devices but then claimed not to be able to copy a file. I hit browse and the file was there but it insisted it wasn't. This happened for about 20 files I tried! Big problems.
Fired up Ubuntu..no probs. Backed up his data. Wiped the drive with GParted and fresh install of XP. Had all the usual fun of finding drivers, installing hundreds of updates etc. I started at 9:30am and I'm still going now at 5:18pm!! He's gone home and left the PC here (I'm always here late anyway). Seems his teenage kids (who were set as Administrators!!) weren't too picky about what they downloaded or where they downloaded from. The machine was riddled with viruses. I'm going to have a serious talk with him when I see him next. Also, the case is full of dust! It amazes me that people just assume they can use their PCs for as long as they want, with no maintenance and expect it to work just like it did the day they bought it. They'll have their cars serviced regularly but it never enters their mind that their PC might need a little care from time to time....(rant over!!! :hot:)
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You ran a scan on the backup, correct?
 

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Update guys!
It turns up that the guy had a RAID!!!!! No wonder why it came back, lol. When I did the install, it installed on the "copy" drive and when I rebooted for the 2nd time, it booted on the other drive LOL.

Well, well, it turns out that the other guy simply removed the bad files manually with another computer and everything was saved.

I never did RAID before and so, from my lack of experience, I didn't see that coming.

*thinks*
So, that's what the floppy was for... ahah...
 

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Thanks for the followup.
 

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Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
Cooling
Fan based
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
Internet Speed
3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
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