Moving the boot manager

johna711

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I've been dealing with this for a while, and since I'm about to move my computer, I can't have hard drives hanging out the side and stuff, so it's time to get it fixed.

About 6 months ago, I got a new hard drive, and installed windows 7 pro on it. My old hard drive with the win7 ultimate beta was still in the computer, and I guess the installer used the bootmgr from the old hard drive, so whenever I try to disconnect the old hard drive, I get the BootMGR not found, ctrl-alt-del to restart, error message.

I tried startup repair, which did not work- when I disconnect the old hard drive, the installer cannot find any windows installations to repair. I played around with bcdedit, but that was a no go, as I really had no idea what I was doing. I tried to manually copy over the bootmgr file, but it gave me some permission error and didn't let me, which was extremely aggravating, as I was running as an administrator.

And here's the bcdedit.
I really want C: to be stand alone, as D: is currently hanging out and lying on the floor next to my computer. The only thing it's used for is the bootmgr.


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /enum /v

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795}
device partition=D:
path \bootmgr
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
displayorder {33f63f16-a753-11de-bd9c-e5bc9241decc}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {33f63f16-a753-11de-bd9c-e5bc9241decc}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7 Professional
locale en-US
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {c75a17ec-a731-11de-9869-806e6f6e6963}


EDIT: I also forgot to mention, as I doubt it matters, but I deleted the old win7 ultimate entry via msconfig.
 

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Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit
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AMD Phenom 9950 Quad-Core Processor, ~3.0 GHz
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ASRock K10N780SLIX3-WiFi
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2x2GB OCZ High Performance DDR2
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Realtek High Definition Audio Device
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You need to unplug unwanted Win7, mark the intended Win7 active, then boot DVD Repair console or Repair CD to run Startup Repair up to 3 separate times with reboots to write the MBR to it.

To mark it active, use free PartitionWizard bootable CD, or boot Win7 DVD/Repair CD, press Shift F10 at bootup to open a Command Prompt, type:

DISKPART
LIST DISK
SELECT DISK 0 (confirm this is intended Win7 HD, only one plugged in)
ACTIVE
EXIT

Now return to Startup Repair in list and run up to 3 times with reboots to get it started.

If it will not start, then try to jumpstart Repair by opening command line again to type: bootrec /fixmbr and then bootrec /fixboot, see if it finds installation to Startup Repair X3.
 
Similar but on the same physical drive

I have a similar issue. My bcdedit screen looks identical as far as the manger being on D and the bootloader being on C.

My issue is that C: is a logical drive and D: is the active, primary partition. So I can't unplug the drives as you mentioned above

Is there no way for me to get that bootmanager over to C: as so the D: drive won't be a system drive and I can wipe it and use it for random storage?


FYI, My problem stems from a former XP installation on D:
Thanks
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i5
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55a-UD3
Memory
4 G
Hello indymusician, welcome to Seven Forums!



There's a couple very easy ways to sort your issue but before we make any specific recommendations will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map with a full description as to which drive/partition is which, so we can see what you have going on as there may be a fairly simple way to resolve the situation.

In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.


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* BFK Customs *
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W 7 64-bit Ultimate
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Intel Q9550 Yorkfield
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ASUS P5Q Pro
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8GB Dominator 8500C5D
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ATI : XFX 5870
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio 7-1
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1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
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1920x1080P & 1920x1200
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1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
PSU
Corsair 620HX
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Cooler Master RC-690
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Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
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Microsoft 500
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Razer Diamondback 3G
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Making C: Bootable

I have a similar issue and hope there's a quick solution. Like the good old days when you could type sys c: - anyhow, my Win 7 install is on c: but somehow the files required to boot wound up on F: I would like to remove the drive containing F: and move all required files to C:
 

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ASUS home build
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Win 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel
Motherboard
AMD
Memory
Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon 5870
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 27 Ultrasharp
Hard Drives
SSD - OCZ. Intel
PSU
PC Power & Cooling
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
Thermaltake Bigwater
Making C: Bootable Pt 2

And the BCDEDIT screen cap
 

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ASUS home build
OS
Win 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel
Motherboard
AMD
Memory
Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon 5870
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 27 Ultrasharp
Hard Drives
SSD - OCZ. Intel
PSU
PC Power & Cooling
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
Thermaltake Bigwater
bmos, it would be best you started your own thread rather than highjacking this one. But let me give you a quick answer:

Disconnect all drives except Disk 4 and run system recovery off your installation disk 3 times - see here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/104341-bootmgr-missing-fix.html

Your 100MB partition landed on disk 3 because the installer always grabs one with a lower port number.

Other than that you have a somewhat weird setup - e.g the dynamic disk 0 and apparently two SSDs.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
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Hello bmos, welcome to Seven Forums!


Power down the PC and disconnect all HDDs except the target HDD/SSD, connect that to the #1 SATA port of the motherboard and set it as the second boot device after the CD/DVD drive in the BIOS then boot the Windows 7 installation DVD to do the startup repairs, power down and reconnect the other HDD/SSD leaving C: connected to the same mobo port.

The boot repair functions are all automated in Windows 7 now, no need to run the commands manually.

Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times


Be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
* BFK Customs *
OS
W 7 64-bit Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550 Yorkfield
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q Pro
Memory
8GB Dominator 8500C5D
Graphics Card(s)
ATI : XFX 5870
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio 7-1
Monitor(s) Displays
1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080P & 1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
PSU
Corsair 620HX
Case
Cooler Master RC-690
Cooling
Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
Keyboard
Microsoft 500
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
14 Mb/s
Other Info
1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack
Hi bmos,

Set Disk 4 ahead of Disk1 in bios boot order.

Boot windows 7 dvd/recovery disc and run startup repair - might take 3 runs.
 

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System One System Two

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    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
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Apologies for hijacking thread. Thanks all for the advice. Bare Foot kid provided the clue as I had to move the SSD off the Marvell controller before Win 7 Repair console would recognize it. Repaired with only 1 boot! :D
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS home build
OS
Win 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel
Motherboard
AMD
Memory
Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon 5870
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 27 Ultrasharp
Hard Drives
SSD - OCZ. Intel
PSU
PC Power & Cooling
Case
Cooler Master
Cooling
Thermaltake Bigwater
Apologies for hijacking thread. Thanks all for the advice. Bare Foot kid provided the clue as I had to move the SSD off the Marvell controller before Win 7 Repair console would recognize it. Repaired with only 1 boot! :D



Hello again mate, good to see I could help and thanks for the update!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
* BFK Customs *
OS
W 7 64-bit Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550 Yorkfield
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q Pro
Memory
8GB Dominator 8500C5D
Graphics Card(s)
ATI : XFX 5870
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio 7-1
Monitor(s) Displays
1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080P & 1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
PSU
Corsair 620HX
Case
Cooler Master RC-690
Cooling
Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
Keyboard
Microsoft 500
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
14 Mb/s
Other Info
1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack
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