Win7 Home Premium: replacement for gpedit?

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I'm a Win7 newbie and have just run into a shutdown problem involving an M-Audio sound card. The problem was solved a year ago with a .bat file to be run at shutdown, but implementation involved the following steps:
4) Open "run" from start menu and enter "gpedit.msc" (without quotes) and hit "OK"
5) Now navigate from right pain of window "User Configuration" > "Windows Settings" > "scripts (Logon/Logoff)" > "Logoff"
6) From window that opens from clicking "Logoff" Click "Add" then browse to where you saved "Audio Stop.bat" earlier and double click on it.
7) Hit "Apply" and close.

Great! No gpedit in Win7 Home Premium. (Can't trust us with tools like that, I guess.) So how do I do this implementation in Home Edition?
 

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Unfortunately Home Premium doesn't come with the snap-in :(
 

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pokeefe0001 said:
I'm a Win7 newbie and have just run into a shutdown problem involving an M-Audio sound card. The problem was solved a year ago with a .bat file to be run at shutdown, but implementation involved the following steps:
4) Open "run" from start menu and enter "gpedit.msc" (without quotes) and hit "OK"
5) Now navigate from right pain of window "User Configuration" > "Windows Settings" > "scripts (Logon/Logoff)" > "Logoff"
6) From window that opens from clicking "Logoff" Click "Add" then browse to where you saved "Audio Stop.bat" earlier and double click on it.
7) Hit "Apply" and close.

Great! No gpedit in Win7 Home Premium. (Can't trust us with tools like that, I guess.) So how do I do this implementation in Home Edition?
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Can't it be reinstate like it was in XP Home with the Pro version of gpedit.msc?
 

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There is also this Group Policy Registration Table

You can basically edit anything you would using gpedit.msc, except you will have to use regedit and use that table to set the values according to what you wanna do
 

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Please understand that I'm pretty Windows-ignorant. If I understand what you've said, the structure is the same, but the tool isn't included. (I was afraid maybe the technique for running shutdown scripts had also changed.) So the Home edition provides no tool for incorporating shutdown scripts? I don't think I should try the regedit solution withing seeing EXACTLY what I need to change.

BTW, I don't understand the reference to the Solarwinds WMI Monitor at all. Does it include a group policy editor?
 

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I think, but not certain. you can run as a Task in Task Scheduler and set the time to during shut-down.... Not sure though.
 

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pokeefe0001 said:
BTW, I don't understand the reference to the Solarwinds WMI Monitor at all. Does it include a group policy editor?
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I believe it has the capabilities to do with gpedit can do, just in a different way.
 

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pokeefe0001 said:
Please understand that I'm pretty Windows-ignorant. If I understand what you've said, the structure is the same, but the tool isn't included. (I was afraid maybe the technique for running shutdown scripts had also changed.) So the Home edition provides no tool for incorporating shutdown scripts? I don't think I should try the regedit solution withing seeing EXACTLY what I need to change.

BTW, I don't understand the reference to the Solarwinds WMI Monitor at all. Does it include a group policy editor?
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You could read some here:
Microsoft Windows 7 Gpedit.msc | Group Policy Editor | Troubleshooting Home Premium
 

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You can perform the same operation using the same batch file by setting up a log off "task" in the task scheduler (Control Panel\System and Security\Schedule Tasks).
 

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Oh terrific. Finally, at the bottom of the page it gives the answer to Troubleshooting Home Premium:
If you are troubleshooting gpedit.msc in Windows 7 Home Premium, it does not exist; you need to upgrade to the Ultimate edition.
​
That certainly doesn't go far in answering the question "How do I add a shutdown script to Win7 Home Premium?".
 

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fseal said:
You can perform the same operation using the same batch file by setting up a log off "task" in the task scheduler (Control Panel\System and Security\Schedule Tasks).
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Ah! Now THAT sounds like answer I needed. Thank you!

Edit: Or maybe it isn't the answer I needed. "At shutdown" doesn't seem to be an option. Is there an event that I can use as a trigger during shutdown?
 

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pokeefe0001 said:
Oh terrific. Finally, at the bottom of the page it gives the answer to Troubleshooting Home Premium:
If you are troubleshooting gpedit.msc in Windows 7 Home Premium, it does not exist; you need to upgrade to the Ultimate edition.
​
That certainly doesn't go far in answering the question "How do I add a shutdown script to Win7 Home Premium?".
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Don't be so Sarcastic...!:p

You'll find a way to set your script, we're trying to give you some answers!:)

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...r-create-shut-down-pc-automatically-task.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/12444-task-scheduler-create-new-task.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/67503-task-create-run-program-startup-log.html
 

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I've looked at those examples you included. The concepts are clear but I'm not sure how to adapt the to my needs. I don't think I have any problem creating the task, but I don't know enough about Windows "events" to know how to trigger the task. Is there an even available as a trigger that is guaranteed to happen only during shutdown? I didn't see anything obvious, but I could easily have missed one.
 

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Kirsch said:
There is also this Group Policy Registration Table

You can basically edit anything you would using gpedit.msc, except you will have to use regedit and use that table to set the values according to what you wanna do
Click to expand...

You will probably find the following snippet of interest.

registrytable.PNG
 

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karlsnooks said:
Kirsch said:
There is also this Group Policy Registration Table

You can basically edit anything you would using gpedit.msc, except you will have to use regedit and use that table to set the values according to what you wanna do
Click to expand...

You will probably find the following snippet of interest.

View attachment 87237
Click to expand...
Ah, but my modifying the directory with regedit presupposed that I know what I'm doing - an unwarranted assumption. Actually, using gpedit makes that same assumption, I guess
 

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pokeefe0001 said:
karlsnooks said:
Kirsch said:
There is also this Group Policy Registration Table

You can basically edit anything you would using gpedit.msc, except you will have to use regedit and use that table to set the values according to what you wanna do
Click to expand...

You will probably find the following snippet of interest.

View attachment 87237
Click to expand...
Ah, but my modifying the directory with regedit presupposed that I know what I'm doing - an unwarranted assumption. Actually, using gpedit makes that same assumption, I guess
Click to expand...

Yes it does, and it means that you readed all or part of for your needs. It takes a very long time to mind all this matter in your brain and have the knowledge to set up it. It is huge and both solution are long.

The one solution will be to upgrade to a Pro version, and it can be done very easily with a Windows Anytime Upgrade, therefore you'll be able to manage group policy settings without editing the registry.

Not much choices are offered here appart learning what is provided here.:)
 

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NoN said:
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The one solution will be to upgrade to a Pro version...
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I decided to bite the bullet and do the upgrade (even though it irks me to have to upgrade just to get a safe way to implement a shutdown script. And strangely, Windows shut down (twice) with no trouble during the upgrade process, and shutdown cleanly the one time I've tried it following the upgrade. Maybe I don't even need gpedit now that I have it. :confused:
 

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pokeefe0001 said:
NoN said:
[
The one solution will be to upgrade to a Pro version...
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I decided to bite the bullet and do the upgrade (even though it irks me to have to upgrade just to get a safe way to implement a shutdown script. And strangely, Windows shut down (twice) with no trouble during the upgrade process, and shutdown cleanly the one time I've tried it following the upgrade. Maybe I don't even need gpedit now that I have it. :confused:
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Oops:rolleyes:....I'm sure you will enjoy some of the benefits of the Pro version. That might be a misplaced file that had bug you with the Home Premium.

I did either upgraded my Home Premium to the Pro version with no regrets at all.

You can find in the tutorial section the comparison of the differents Windows 7 versions to get an idea of what you have been upgraded.:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/14422-compare-windows-7-editions.html?filter[2]=General Tips

The Group Policy will help you for not having editing the registry in some general tips and customization settings you will find along the experience & needs you'll get of 7
 

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