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Windows 7: Panda wants Ballot Screen for Windows Security Software


09 Nov 2010   #11

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What the hell are these guys smoking?


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OMG, this just screams awesomeness!


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09 Nov 2010   #12

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I can see no one here yet understands the nuances in the anti trust laws that are a part of almost every country's laws.

Certainly, MS has the right to present an anti-virus, free of charge, tacked onto the OS. They haven't done it up 'till now. What if they put all of the other AV providers out of business, eventually? Heck, that would be great! Then they could charge whatever they want afterward...
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09 Nov 2010   #13

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

Here we go again.
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09 Nov 2010   #14

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
Certainly, MS has the right to present an anti-virus, free of charge, tacked onto the OS. They haven't done it up 'till now. What if they put all of the other AV providers out of business, eventually? Heck, that would be great! Then they could charge whatever they want afterward...
And then someone would make one and sell it for less, and remove MS's.

~Lordbob
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09 Nov 2010   #15

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Panda should be GRATEFUL that microsoft even gives them a buisness model that allows them to make money in the first place. I'm sure they'd be complaining just as much if MS came out with a new OS that made Virii obsolete...

I still wonder how Open Source software is not considered "anti-trust" all by itself. Or any of the other free AV programs, why doesn't panda go after them for giving away "their" profit for free? If Adobe makes a version of PS for Linux, can they sue the various linux distros for including The GIMP for free?

Somehow Norton is doing pretty good. Could it be, you know, that they actually get "Compete or die" and have come up with a much more value added product that's worth paying for? Like to how Photoshop is far more valuable than the free MS paint or The GIMP and is worth paying for so they don't need to whine?

Naaaaaw couldn't be any of that.
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09 Nov 2010   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
Certainly, MS has the right to present an anti-virus, free of charge, tacked onto the OS. They haven't done it up 'till now. What if they put all of the other AV providers out of business, eventually? Heck, that would be great! Then they could charge whatever they want afterward...
And then someone would make one and sell it for less, and remove MS's.

~Lordbob
Lordbob75, that is a wonderfully optimistic view. Once the installed base reaches a critical level, the idea of real competition is diminished immeasurably.
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09 Nov 2010   #17

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 x2 + x86 + Windows 8.1 x64 x2
 
 

think this link may provide a little insight into why Panda as a company are looking for any unfair advantage they can get

Panda Security - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The company appears to have falling sales and internal problems, the free advertising that a ballot would provide (if they were even included in the ballot, which would have to be limited to the major products), might be their last chance to stem their recent decline.
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09 Nov 2010   #18

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Competition is good for everyone. Right now all the current anti virus solutions are rather lacking in my opinion. The Internet could be a much safer place.
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09 Nov 2010   #19

 

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I can see no one here yet understands the nuances in the anti trust laws that are a part of almost every country's laws.
Explain how a voluntary, optional install which you need to go download - it doesn't even come with the friggen' OS - is anticompetitive.
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09 Nov 2010   #20

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Trucidation View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
I can see no one here yet understands the nuances in the anti trust laws that are a part of almost every country's laws.
Explain how a voluntary, optional install which you need to go download - it doesn't even come with the friggen' OS - is anticompetitive.
It's known as a captive audience and taking advantage of that audience. It has been done in the past. If it weren't, there would never have been the necessity of anti trust laws that are a part of practically every-country-in-the-world's laws.

Look, I'm all in favor of competition. It's one of the cornerstones that keeps MS improving Windows. Many of the user interface features in Win 7 appeared first in some of the Ubuntu and Kubuntu releases.

MS has such market penetration that they can steer the course of their fortunes regarding ancillary appendages to their OS if they so desire and are left unchecked.
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