| Windows 7: Microsoft vs. McAfee: How free antivirus outperformed paid |
16 Nov 2010
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| | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. 1,236 posts |
Microsoft vs. McAfee: How free antivirus outperformed paid Quote:
How effective is free antivirus software? I had a chance to see a real, in-the-wild example just this month, and the results were, to put it mildly, unexpected. The bottom line? Microsoft’s free antivirus solution found and removed a threat that two well-known paid products missed. Here are the details. [ Update: After I publlished this post, a second example appeared, courtesy of a rogue commenter in the Talkback section. See the results at the end of this post.]
I’ve had Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) installed on my main working PC for most of the past year. Mostly, I use it for real-time protection. I typically disable the scheduled virus scans on my PCs and instead occasionally do a manual scan just to confirm that nothing out of the ordinary has snuck through. Last month I decided to perform a scan using the Full option. Because I have 2.5 terabytes of hard disk space, with roughly 40% of it in use, I knew the scan would take a long time. So I scheduled it to run while I was out running errands.
When I came back, here’s a snippet of what I found: 
MSE had detected several files files that it considered malicious. One was a rigged PDF file (not shown here). The other was a single file in the Java cache folder on this system that contained three separate exploits. Using the information in the MSE history pane, I found the file and uploaded it to Virustotal.com, which is a free service that allows you to scan a suspicious file using 43 separate antivirus engines. The file, identified by a unique hash, had already been analyzed, so I got the results immediately:  Microsoft vs. McAfee: How free antivirus outperformed paid | ZDNet | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900. Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed ADSL [ but too slow ] |
18 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 2,095 posts Belgrade, Serbia |
Quote: McAfee products offer real-time protection using cloud-based Global Threat Intelligence to combat even the most sophisticated threats thus ensuring complete protection and peace of mind. Complete? Oh goody, so I can sue the company for fraud since McAfee succumbed to tons of crap last time I used it. lol
Good read, Jan, thanks, I had a good laugh. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire V3-531G OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel B960 Sandy Bridge (2.2GHz, 2MB L3 cache) Motherboard Intel® HM77 Express Memory 6GB DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GT630M with 1GB dedicated VRAM + Intel HD Sound Card Integrated audio with 2xHigh Definition Dolby® v4 speakers Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" HD LED Acer CineCrystal™ (high-brightness 200-nit) Screen Resolution 1.366 x 768 (WXGA) Keyboard Acer FineTip & MultiTouch Touchpad Case Custom Midi Tower Hard Drives 500GB SATA Other Info HDMI, VGA D-sub, USB 3.0, 2xUSB 2.0, RJ-45, 2x3.5mm audio (1x headphones, 1x microphone), card reader 5-in-1, Acer InviLink™ Nplify™ IEEE 802.11a/g/n, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth™ 4.0 + HS |
18 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 623 posts |
Nothing will ever keep me from Kaspermodo! Complete protection | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP p6270z OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMD Athlon II X4 620 Motherboard Foxconn ALOE (CPU 1) Memory 4.00GB Dual Channel DDR3 @ 666Mhz (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card HD Radeon 4200 (Integrated) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311 (1920x1080) @ 60Hz Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Hard Drives 488GB Seagate ST3500418AS SCSI Disk Device (RAID) |
18 Nov 2010
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| | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop) 7,344 posts east central NY state |
I have MSE set to do a full scan every day at noon. Between that, Malwarebytes quick scans, and Superantispyware scans, so far so good! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop) CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R Memory 2x 2GB OCZ DDR II SDRAM PC2-6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT Monitor(s) Displays HP 2009m(primary), Acer P191W Screen Resolution 1600x900, 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech M-SBF90 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA500D Case Antec Sonata III Cooling 4 fans Hard Drives Internal:WD Caviar Black 640GB 32MB cache 7200RPM
External:Samsung Story Station 1TB HDD desktop drive
500GB Toshiba portable drive Internet Speed Slow due to home Wireless-G router Antivirus MSE, Hitman Pro, Malwarebytes Browser Chrome and Palemoon Other Info Laptop....Acer 5750Z-4835
15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystal™ LED-backlit LCD Display: (1366x768 resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio)
Intel® Pentium® Processor B940 (2.0GHz, 2MB L3 cache)
Windows® 7 Home Premium,500GB Hard Drive,4GB DDR3 RAM, Intel® HD Graphics,8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Multi-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader,802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
Chrome and Palemoon, MSE, Hitman Pro |
18 Nov 2010
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| | Arch Linux 64-bit 713 posts Ireland |
Quote: ...
We are rather tired of repeating that VirusTotal was not designed as a tool to perform AV comparative analyses, but as a tool that checks suspicious samples with several AV programs and helps AV labs by forwarding them the malware they failed to detect. Those who use VirusTotal to perform AV comparative analyses should know that they are making many implicit errors in the methodology, the most obvious being:
- VirusTotal AV engines are commandline versions, so depending on the product, they will not behave quite like the desktop versions: for instance, in such cases when desktop solutions use techniques based on behavioral analysis and count on personal firewalls that may decrease entry points and mitigate propagation, etc.
- In VirusTotal desktop-oriented solutions coexist with perimeter-oriented solutions; heuristics in this latter group may be more aggressive and paranoid, since impact of false positives is less visible in the perimeter. It is simply not fair to compare both groups. ... AV Comparative Analyses, Marketing, and VirusTotal: A Bad Combination | My System Specs | | |
18 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit 2,399 posts Covington, La |
Quote from Article:
"I’ve had Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) installed on my main working PC for most of the past year. Mostly, I use it for real-time protection."
So what he is saying is that MSE let the bad stuff in but later found it with a full scan. And that makes it a better product? No AV will stop everything. He must of ran out of ideas to write about with this lame article.
Jim | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit CPU Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9 Graphics Card MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K120 Mouse Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad PSU Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular Case Corsair 400R Cooling Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm Hard Drives Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0 Internet Speed 15MB Antivirus Norton IS 2012, Malwarebytes Pro Browser IE-10, FF-19 Other Info APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner |
18 Nov 2010
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| | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop) 7,344 posts east central NY state |

Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man Quote from Article:
"I’ve had Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) installed on my main working PC for most of the past year. Mostly, I use it for real-time protection." So what he is saying is that MSE let the bad stuff in but later found it with a full scan. And that makes it a better product? No AV will stop everything. He must of ran out of ideas to write about with this lame article.
Jim  That is a good point! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop) CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R Memory 2x 2GB OCZ DDR II SDRAM PC2-6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT Monitor(s) Displays HP 2009m(primary), Acer P191W Screen Resolution 1600x900, 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech M-SBF90 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA500D Case Antec Sonata III Cooling 4 fans Hard Drives Internal:WD Caviar Black 640GB 32MB cache 7200RPM
External:Samsung Story Station 1TB HDD desktop drive
500GB Toshiba portable drive Internet Speed Slow due to home Wireless-G router Antivirus MSE, Hitman Pro, Malwarebytes Browser Chrome and Palemoon Other Info Laptop....Acer 5750Z-4835
15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystal™ LED-backlit LCD Display: (1366x768 resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio)
Intel® Pentium® Processor B940 (2.0GHz, 2MB L3 cache)
Windows® 7 Home Premium,500GB Hard Drive,4GB DDR3 RAM, Intel® HD Graphics,8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Multi-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader,802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
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