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    AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deals with AV


    Posted: 27 Nov 2011
    I never liked bullies, I never liked censorship, I never liked blackmail and I still don’t!

    Its 24th November early in the morning, its Thanksgiving day in the US and looking forward to celebrating it with my family and friends. I checked my emails and I see the below email that has been sent to us (to Umesh). I was shocked to say the least! Peter Stelzhammer of AV-comparatives.org is threating me and blackmailing me saying that if I don’t “censor” my forum postings they will reveal “confidential” information.
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    27 Nov 2011



  1. Posts : 1,326
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       #1

    Wow. I never thought that such website would censor real results and change them in a way that the AV Vendors actually likes... such BS.
    Last edited by Lebon14; 27 Nov 2011 at 23:07. Reason: That sentence was awkward. Should be more comprehensive now.
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  2. Posts : 8,476
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       #2

    Oh my my... I always trusted their reports.
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  3. Posts : 53,363
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       #3

    No matter what the "truth" is in this matter, our opinions of their results will always be colored now. Are the results legit? Or were they paid for to make them better? Interesting development. A Guy
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       #4

    $8000 for topping the charts for the whole year. WTF?
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       #5

    Thats dirty business, another sad reality
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    Can't trust anything any more.
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    Maybe that explains why a product does well on one test site and poorly on another. Who knows for sure how many other test sites skew their results based on financial gain.
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  8. Posts : 2,686
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    After reading that entire post it seams that Comodo is a big cry baby. It was stated that Comodo commissioned a specific test and the results were bad and then told AV-Compatibles not to publish the results since they paid for the test. Then they complained on the forum and Av-Compatibles told them if they did not retract their erroneous post they would release the results and all the facts.

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    I haven't bothered with AV programs (apart from MBAM) ever since uninstalling McAfee back in 2005 resulted in my old XP system being SLAMMED with dozens and dozens of malware and trojans and etc. immediately (and I mean DIRECTLY) after we did that (as in, uninstalling it CAUSED them). It just about killed it too. Had to be replaced, even after several factory restores it just wasn't the same. Excruciatingly slow and crippled (back then this was a $1,200 system!). Now I only use it to test downloads or to look simple things up on the internet when I'm gaming on it's replacement and can't do those things on there... and even those basic functions take it forever. That's what McAfee did, or rather daring to uninstall their AV software and stop paying them their fees! We could never prove it was them, however so we got burned on a relatively new system.

    That's the reality of the AV world... at least as I've experienced it first hand. Perhaps McAfee has changed it's tune since then, but I will never ever again trust the big AV's that are in it only for your $$$$$. I was even reluctant to try the free MBAM. But I'm glad I did. I should really up to the full version, to support it because it actually works, doesn't install the things it is instead supposed to defend against and that's everything a good AV should be. And all for nothing, if you don't want the real-time protection etc.

    I hope the MBAM team develops a firewall, I'd gladly use it - even if they did want a paid-license for it.


    So anyway, just my $0.02 and it being to serve that there are worse goings-on in this realm of IT than simply fudging a few tests.
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