| Windows 7: AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deals with AV |
27 Nov 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deals with AV Quote: I never liked bullies, I never liked censorship, I never liked blackmail and I still don’t!
Its 24th November early in the morning, its Thanksgiving day in the US and looking forward to celebrating it with my family and friends. I checked my emails and I see the below email that has been sent to us (to Umesh). I was shocked to say the least! Peter Stelzhammer of AV-comparatives.org is threating me and blackmailing me saying that if I don’t “censor” my forum postings they will reveal “confidential” information. Source
A Guy | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
27 Nov 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 QC, Canada |
Wow. I never thought that such website would censor real results and change them in a way that the AV Vendors actually likes... such BS.
Last edited by Lebon14; 27 Nov 2011 at 11:07 PM..
Reason: That sentence was awkward. Should be more comprehensive now.
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27 Nov 2011
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#3 | | Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) Mumbai, India |
Oh my my... I always trusted their reports. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN OS Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) CPU Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) Motherboard Samsung Electronics Memory 6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB + 2GB x 1) Graphics Card AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 35.56cm (14.0) SuperBright 300nit HD LED Display Screen Resolution 1366x768 Hard Drives 1TB S-ATA II Hard Drive (5400RPM) with ExpressCache 16GB SSD Internet Speed sucks Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome (Sync enabled) |
27 Nov 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
No matter what the "truth" is in this matter, our opinions of their results will always be colored now. Are the results legit? Or were they paid for to make them better? Interesting development. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
27 Nov 2011
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#5 | | Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) Mumbai, India |
$8000 for topping the charts for the whole year. WTF? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN OS Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit) CPU Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) Motherboard Samsung Electronics Memory 6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB + 2GB x 1) Graphics Card AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 35.56cm (14.0) SuperBright 300nit HD LED Display Screen Resolution 1366x768 Hard Drives 1TB S-ATA II Hard Drive (5400RPM) with ExpressCache 16GB SSD Internet Speed sucks Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Google Chrome (Sync enabled) |
27 Nov 2011
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#6 | | Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android Mauritius |
Thats dirty business, another sad reality | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz Motherboard Asus Rampage formula LGA775 Memory 8GB DDR2 900Mhz Graphics Card Zotac GTX 460OC 2GB GDDR5/Asus EN9600GT 1GB DDR3 PhyX Sound Card Supreme FX2 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Prolink keyboard Mouse Prolink optical mouse PSU Cooler Master GX 650W Cooling Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans Hard Drives 3X500GB hitachi, 2TB internal, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung Internet Speed 1MiB/s Other Info 5.1 System + 2.1 System |
27 Nov 2011
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#7 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Can't trust anything any more. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
27 Nov 2011
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#8 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
Maybe that explains why a product does well on one test site and poorly on another. Who knows for sure how many other test sites skew their results based on financial gain. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup |
27 Nov 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |
After reading that entire post it seams that Comodo is a big cry baby. It was stated that Comodo commissioned a specific test and the results were bad and then told AV-Compatibles not to publish the results since they paid for the test. Then they complained on the forum and Av-Compatibles told them if they did not retract their erroneous post they would release the results and all the facts.
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27 Nov 2011
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#10 | | 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 California, US |
I haven't bothered with AV programs (apart from MBAM) ever since uninstalling McAfee back in 2005 resulted in my old XP system being SLAMMED with dozens and dozens of malware and trojans and etc. immediately (and I mean DIRECTLY) after we did that (as in, uninstalling it CAUSED them). It just about killed it too. Had to be replaced, even after several factory restores it just wasn't the same. Excruciatingly slow and crippled (back then this was a $1,200 system!). Now I only use it to test downloads or to look simple things up on the internet when I'm gaming on it's replacement and can't do those things on there... and even those basic functions take it forever. That's what McAfee did, or rather daring to uninstall their AV software and stop paying them their fees! We could never prove it was them, however so we got burned on a relatively new system.
That's the reality of the AV world... at least as I've experienced it first hand. Perhaps McAfee has changed it's tune since then, but I will never ever again trust the big AV's that are in it only for your $$$$$. I was even reluctant to try the free MBAM. But I'm glad I did. I should really up to the full version, to support it because it actually works, doesn't install the things it is instead supposed to defend against and that's everything a good AV should be. And all for nothing, if you don't want the real-time protection etc.
I hope the MBAM team develops a firewall, I'd gladly use it - even if they did want a paid-license for it.
So anyway, just my $0.02 and it being to serve that there are worse goings-on in this realm of IT than simply fudging a few tests. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 5738PG-6306 OS 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core 2 Duo T6600 @ 2.20GHz Motherboard Acer JV50 | Intel PM45 Chipset | BIOS Phoenix v1.21 Memory 4GB SDRAM DDR2 667 Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon 4570HD 512MB VDDR3 (2.25GB HyperMemory) Sound Card Integrated Dolby Home Theater HD Audio Support Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" LED backlight HD/WS CineCrystal w/ Multi-Touch Screen Resolution Notebook: 1366x768 | Syncmaster P2370HD: 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 3000 (USB) Mouse Logitech V220 (USB) PSU AC Adapter Case Blue Clam shell Cooling OEM Bult-in. Hard Drives Primary internal: 320GB WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0 @ 5400 RPM | Secondary external 1: 2TB Cavalry CAXB3702T0 @7200 RPM (USB 2.0) | Secondary external 2: 500GB Calvary CAUM @7200 RPM (USB 2.0). Internet Speed 31Mbps DL/25Mbps UL - Verizon fiOs/Netgear WNDR37AV Other Info EXTERNAL DISPLAY: 23" Samsung Syncmaster P2370HD | EXTERNAL SOUND: 300 Watt MX-KB30 JVC Stereo (AUX) | ROUTER: Netgear WNDR37AV 802.11a/b/g/n Dual-Band Gigabit | Satechi 12-Port USB 2.0 Hub | GAME PAD: SteelSeries 3GC USB 2.0 (JoyToKey Mapping) | DETAILED SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5265887&CatId=4938 AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deals with AV problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:50 PM. | |