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Windows 7: It's Time to Get Rid of Java, Feels F-Secure


28 Dec 2011   #1
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64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 
It's Time to Get Rid of Java, Feels F-Secure

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The Java browser plugin is notorious for being wildly popular among malware authors. The ubiquity of Java is not the only reason for this. Rather, the problem seems to lie more in the fact that a sizable chunk of its installed base consists of outdated versions, something that is often attributed to low awareness among users about Java itself and the threat posed by Java vulnerabilities. But according to F-Secureís Mikko Hypponen, the only thing users need to know about Java is that they donít need it.
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28 Dec 2011   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit)
 
 
Yes, but ...

I agree with the sentiment (as members of Windows SevenForums are probably aware).

"But according to F-Secure’s Mikko Hypponen, the only thing users need to know about Java is that they don’t need it."

As long as coders keep using it for everything, we're stuck with it
(and Flash too).
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11 Jan 2012   #3

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit, Linux Mint Julia, in dual boot mode
 
 

Well, finally someone (F-Secure) calls a spade a spade.
Wait ans see what happens now.
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11 Jan 2012   #4

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I'd be so very happy to see the end of Java. It's... jarring (heh) on every platform I've ever seen. It makes me sad that developers believe they'll save time and a few bucks by using it: 'code once, run anywhere!' Yerk. Maybe, I hope, this report is another nail in the coffin.
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11 Jan 2012   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit)
 
 

We should be so lucky.
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12 Jan 2012   #6

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Online? Sure, I'm OK with it but, offline, I don't agree. On top of my head, I can count at least 3 softwares I use that were coded in Java.
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12 Jan 2012   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lebon14 View Post
Online? Sure, I'm OK with it but, offline, I don't agree. On top of my head, I can count at least 3 softwares I use that were coded in Java.
Are you saying those programs couldn't have been written using something else?
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12 Jan 2012   #8

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit, Linux Mint Julia, in dual boot mode
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lebon14 View Post
Online? Sure, I'm OK with it but, offline, I don't agree. On top of my head, I can count at least 3 softwares I use that were coded in Java.
Are you saying those programs couldn't have been written using something else?
A good rhethorical question. You can probably find other, equivalent software.

For some reason i deleted Silverlight and sometimes a video will not run. I don't worry about it and forget about the video and certainly won't reinstall Silverlight. If you want to have "everything" you'll need an HDD with 1000 GB. In my opinion that almost borders on fetishism.
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17 Jan 2012   #9

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lebon14 View Post
Online? Sure, I'm OK with it but, offline, I don't agree. On top of my head, I can count at least 3 softwares I use that were coded in Java.
Are you saying those programs couldn't have been written using something else?
I'm not saying that. But, to answer your question, I'm pretty sure they could have. But those software I use, I always used them and know them well. There are equivalent for two of them, I'm pretty sure but I'm just too used to them. The third one, well, is called "ListFix". It is used to fix playlists. >_> <_< And uses a standalone Java executable. I don't think that software is risky by itself. For the other two though, I'll keep my guard up. If I see any security holes within those software (I won't name them because they might encourage things this forum is against - then again, it gives a good idea - but those software themselves aren't illegal)

Gah! I said too much I think >_>
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