| Windows 7: Judge says defendant must decrypt files, Fifth Amendment not at issue |
24 Jan 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
Judge says defendant must decrypt files, Fifth Amendment not at issue Quote: Summary: A federal case that may have helped define constitutional law in the digital age turns not on the defendant’s rights in regard to her encryption password, but on the fact that evidence clearly showed she owned a laptop in question and had access to its contents. ZDNet Judge says defendant must decrypt files, Fifth Amendment not at issue | ZDNet
Earlier story - Passwords tangled in Fifth Amendment Passwords tangled in Fifth Amendment | ZDNet
I wonder if this will apply to business? | My System Specs |
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24 Jan 2012
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#2 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
Question That brings the question, What is the use to encrypt? I mean Joe Blow might not be able to read it. But if big brother wants to you have to provide the info. Sheesh! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
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10 Feb 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
Update Quote: Summary: A woman who argued that providing a password to authorities was a violation of her Fifth Amendment rights has filed an appeal in her case and is now also citing the Fourth Amendment. ZDNet Woman who pleaded Fifth in password case now citing Fourth | ZDNet | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD6450 Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
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11 Feb 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |
Judge Blackburn ruled the 5th Amendment (self incrimination) did not apply to her case for this one reason. Quote: Blackburn also noted that the defendant had been granted immunity and that federal prosecutors would not use her act of producing the laptop’s contents in the case against her. I think that was the key to his ruling.
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04 Mar 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Constitutional showdown voided: Feds decrypt laptop without defendant’s help Quote: Colorado federal authorities have decrypted a laptop seized from a bank-fraud defendant, mooting a judge’s order that the defendant unlock the hard drive so the government could use its contents as evidence against her.
The development ends a contentious legal showdown over whether forcing a defendant to decrypt a laptop is a breach of the Fifth Amendment right against compelled self incrimination. Source
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04 Mar 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man Judge Blackburn ruled the 5th Amendment (self incrimination) did not apply to her case for this one reason. Quote: Blackburn also noted that the defendant had been granted immunity and that federal prosecutors would not use her act of producing the laptop’s contents in the case against her. I think that was the key to his ruling.
Jim  What if they choose to use the information to convict a loved one?
Do they have the right?
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04 Mar 2012
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Password? I don't remember any passwords. The stress has made me forget it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
04 Mar 2012
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#9 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
I'm not certain about the analogy in the article, comparing it to forcing a person to unlock a safe, because I don't know how the law stands on it. It would seem to me that a person could not be "forced" to unlock either, except in terms of being given jail time. Therefore, it would come down to whether the amount of time for contempt of court is greater or lesser than the time likely to be given, if found guilty of fraud. And from a criminal perspective if the content of the laptop contains info that could track the money involved, allowing it to be recovered, that would also enter the equation. One way or another, a criminal must pay for their crime. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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04 Mar 2012
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#10 | | Windows 8 64 bit PRO Somewhere in California |
The way i view this is, once you start taking away freedoms or rights to the bad guys, you can de damn sure your freedoms and rights are pretty much also out the window. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway / Slight Modifications OS Windows 8 64 bit PRO CPU AMD Phenom X4 9100e Motherboard Gateway RS780 Memory 2GB X2 DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Gateway 19" + Dell 19" Screen Resolution 1440X900 sometimes 2880 by 900 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Gigabyte GM-M6800 PSU Antec BP 550watts Case Antec 300 Cooling Stock Cooling Hard Drives WD 80GB
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