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Windows 7: Close look at how Oracle installs deceptive software with Java updates

22 Jan 2013   #1
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64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 
Close look at how Oracle installs deceptive software with Java updates

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Oracle's Java plugin for browsers is a notoriously insecure product. Over the past 18 months, the company has released 11 updates, six of them containing critical security fixes. With each update, Java actively tries to install unwanted software. Here's what it does, and why it has to stop.

Read more at source:
A close look at how Oracle installs deceptive software with Java updates | ZDNet

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22 Jan 2013   #2

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Went ahead and just removed Java from my machine last night. I only "needed" it for 2 sites and one of them I can/will just call when I need to make an appointment (V.A. Health). I totally abhor the bundling of trashware into legit programs, which is why I said my goodbyes to Cnet, and won't reinstall it for any reason.
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22 Jan 2013   #3

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Thank you Brink. That was one of the best reports on Java around. Sooner or later in some cases websites that use Java will catch on their customer (the user of their site) won't visit their site because of Java.
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22 Jan 2013   #4

Windows 7 professional 64
 
 

Take a look at Ninite.com
It has for free a custom installer.exe you can download that will install the software you selected the latest versions with all of the NO answers to toolbars and optional programs. Once you create a installer for a given group of programs it will always install the latest versions. Been using this for a while and it works flawlessly. I select a group of programs to install then rename the custom.exe file to download say for example SoftwareBlock1.exe. I save it to a folder where I also create a text file SoftwareBlock1.txt that list what programs it will install. If you have 64bit windows it will install the 64bit version. If you use it for purchased licensed software you will keep your license.
My SoftwareBlock1.exe installer installs/updates Java, Flash and Flash IE. All notorious for on their own installing unwanted programs. This can be a real time saver. There are many features to Ninite.com installer.
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22 Jan 2013   #5

Windows 7 professional 64
 
 

Searching on Sevenforums there are many threads found (58) mentioning the Ninite Installer. Going back at least 3 years. Nothing negative I find that would apply the last year. Check Ninite.com out.
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23 Jan 2013   #6

win7 home premium 64bit
 
 

I use java for an old program called paintchat, otherwise I wouldn't need it. Have yet to find a decent alternative to that program. Draw with friends live on the same canvas.

Opencanvas 1.1b is not an acceptable alternative as it's even older and far from stable.
iscribble, no.
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24 Jan 2013   #7

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1 Pro
 
 

Doesn't surprise me one bit. The net is rife with programs like this trying to sneak in unwanted items. It comes down to $$$$$. Adobe tries to get you to d/l a McAfee product during updates by putting the check box off to the side of the page. (Although I haven't seen this the past couple times, I'm still wary when I update).

I've seen some programs that blatantly refuse to give you an opt out on the included software bundles. Programs like this should be avoided like the plague. And even unchecking the box is no guarantee you're not going to get it anyway, or have something else sneak in. It's usually buried deep in the EULA written in legalese, thereby assuring the company is safe if you raise any concerns or threaten action.

Anytime you d/l & install any program, it's a good idea to do a thorough check of your system to be sure you didn't get any unwanted surprises.
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26 Jan 2013   #8

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Great info there. Anyway I use Java because of Samsung's sync service, Kies, but after reading this, Iíve now configured Java to notify me of any and all attempted installations.

Good info.
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