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Windows 7: Android becomes Windows' equal as a target for hackers


31 Aug 2013   #11

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
Trusted or not AV, it is up to the end users what they will click on. Dangle some porn, celebrity nude pics, etc., and most end users will click on anything, be that link, agreement, apps, etc.

Knowledgeable people, or techies are mostly not impacted by these malware; it is the majority of the people who will and be in trouble, just like Windows users...

Now that's a honest Statement !

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02 Sep 2013   #12

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
 
 

Well, being open source allows much more devs to look at the code and this means faster fixes, at least on paper.

Let's not forget that Windows isn't opensource yet is perfectly hacked if without an AV.
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02 Sep 2013   #13

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX Maverick
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail View Post
Well, being open source allows much more devs to look at the code and this means faster fixes, at least on paper.
On paper... Being open source works better for Linux and it's not even compatible to the Android platform. Admittedly, this is due more to the cell service provider than to the actual platform.
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Let's not forget that Windows isn't opensource yet is perfectly hacked if without an AV.
Or, even with AV, which is just a speed bump for malicious code. It has more to do with the market share than the actual platform. Both Windows and Android have more than 80% market share.

I find it amusing that for both platforms the most vulnerable app is Java, with Adobe being the close second...
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04 Sep 2013   #14

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
On paper... Being open source works better for Linux and it's not even compatible to the Android platform. Admittedly, this is due more to the cell service provider than to the actual platform.
Wut? Android is basically a very lightweight linux distro running on ARM processors. It can run linux programs compiled for its architecture, but of course cannot run x86 programs. It is open-source, anyone can submit patches or enhancements (that's usually a project unless you are a coding ninja).

Being open-source allows a community of developers to port newer versions to the same device, as long as it is known enough. So you can keep your device "updated".

Whoever buys anything from a cell service provider is ripped off badly, but that's not news. At least here.

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It has more to do with the market share than the actual platform. Both Windows and Android have more than 80% market share.
Of course nothing is 100% secure without a few years of military-grade code testing (and even then...). But the differences between the two (on the developing side) should yield different results. Or at least I hope so.
Will be interesting to see how this evolves.

Malware devs made their move, let's see how well the Android devs will answer. Doing worse than Windows is impossible for sure.

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I find it amusing that for both platforms the most vulnerable app is Java, with Adobe being the close second...
Java has always been a mess on any platform. Thankfully on android you don't need either (flash does not run at all on Android beyond 4.04, period).
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09 Sep 2013   #15

Windows 7 Professional x64 Sp1
 
 

Once again, this android malware is blown out of proportion. It is not in the Google play store!
Although some has been discovered in the past, but was pulled immediately as soon as it was found. And that rarely happens. Just like Apple.

The malware they keep talking about is the kind that is not in the official app store:

A user would have to do the following: Go to a website with the infection (Bad app), have the option unknown sources checked under security, be prompted to install it (user would have to tap install) with looking at the permissions the app needs. I mean come on. This is getting ridiculous.
Also jellybean and up prevents any app from sending texts to premium numbers, and also prevents apps from sending more then 30 texts at once or with a time limit that is set. (You can adjust this though)

The only reason all the companies are screaming "malware" is they want stupid users to pay for antivirus software on their phones. Its just more cash for them.

Now Do not take this as I am saying this platform is totally secure. It's not. Nothing is. Even apples own carefully screened app store can get malware. Researches have done it a dozen times so far.

But we need to realize when we our screaming malware, we are blaming the right persons/company, and that fact that its a actual flaw in the OS. You can't fix stupid.
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10 Sep 2013   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit)
 
 
People love installing crapware ...

Adobe and Java are dangerous threats to any OS.
I can't believe that online banking relies on Java.

People love installing crapware on their devices, so they are going to be vulnerable to malware.
I read an article that said the number of installed Apps on Android phones, averaged across all handsets, was 100/phone!

Some people must be installing incredible amounts of garbage!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
A user would have to do the following: Go to a website with the infection (Bad app), have the option unknown sources checked under security, be prompted to install it (user would have to tap install) with looking at the permissions the app needs.
The same pattern is true about Windows infections (in general).

Still, how is the "Average Joe" supposed to know what permissions are actually required for an App to function?
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10 Sep 2013   #17

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
 
 

Yeah, pirated stuff is an obvious attack vector for Android. But it is for anything, really.

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Still, how is the "Average Joe" supposed to know what permissions are actually required for an App to function?
Technically speaking, not even pros can make more than educated guessess without looking at the source code. Still, assuming you installed it from the Google Play, it pops up a list of permissions it needs. The general consensus is that if you don't like some permissions it asks for, don't install and look for another.

Then again, 90% of users just click click click click (or tap tap tap tap for touchscreens) without reading, but that's their problem and I can't really complain, as I live off these kinds of people, that after a while wonder why their device is lagging or is so full of bs, ads and bloatware and pay me or another tech to fix it.

Apps that lockdown permissions are rare (as it's not that easy to do), especially now that Google Play has pulled them off the market together with ad-blocking apps (hint: lots of free apps make moeny by collecting and selling your data as metadata for massive consumer databases, locking down permissions does hurt their revenue and Google knows that).
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