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Windows 7: Do Sentences Make Better Passwords?

02 Mar 2014   #1

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Do Sentences Make Better Passwords?

The space (” “) is a legal character in most password forms. This means you can separate words from one another. Just having a sentence as your password can create a nightmare for hackers, according to a number of security experts, one of them being Thomas Baekdal. The advantage of using a sentence is that it’s much easier to remember than 8fa@!*FaicC and it’s also more secure when used in the proper manner.

In 2007, Baekdal wrote that “this is fun” is 10 times more secure than “J4fS<2.” I’m not sure what his opinion of this is right now, but I do not think that using something simple like “this is fun” is so secure that it would take a computer, according to his written piece, 2,537 years to crack it.

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02 Mar 2014   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1

From xkcd: Password Strength.

Obligatory xkcd.
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02 Mar 2014   #3

W7 X-64 W8.1 X-64 Opensuse 13.1 W2003 Server

Hi there
even for simple passwords if you just stick a special character in position one (say an '!') it renders a lot of password crackers useless. Add another special character at the end too. That way you can still have EASY to remember passwords but very hard to crack.

You can easily do the maths -- two special characters significantly add to the number of brute force calculations to break it via machine, and for a human to guess the special characters correctly is virtually impossible.

The only bugbear in this is that some IT dept / applications won't recognize a lot of special characters but normal QWERTY one's on a standard keyboard (for LATIN type European languages) should work. Use the appropriate symbols also for non Latin type languages - same principle.

example -- much harder to guess !a55hole? than a55hole. Yet it's still easy to remember. BTW that's NOT my password if you want to try it.

Try inserting special characters on some password strength testers -- even a simple password pre and post fixed with special characters will show a change from WEAK ==>STRONG.

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02 Mar 2014   #4

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post

From xkcd: Password Strength.

Obligatory xkcd.
I was going to "say" that.
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03 Mar 2014   #5

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1

According to a report I heard on TV a lot of people just use the word "password" as their password, in fact apparently it is used by over 50% of those users that were asked.
So suggesting that people should use secure passwords seems to have passed way over their heads, or perhaps it just went straight through as there seems to be nothing there to stop it.
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03 Mar 2014   #6

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1

I never new that a sentence was a good way for passwords. I have been using short sentences for years just because they are easy for me to remember.
One for the good guy's.
The bad thing; 1 out of 34939300898 will ever read the article.
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03 Mar 2014   #7

Win-7 Home Prem 64-bit 7601 Free SP1

I use them mostly for banking but still have to use numbers and capital as well
Never thought of using " though = interesting
Never used a blank space I don't believe it's allowed on banking sites ?
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