Windows 7 anti-malware products compared

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  1. Posts : 165
    Windows 7 Ultimate x86 and x64
       #30

    Having taken the time to go to av-test.org and read the test results,
    AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Jan/Feb 2014

    I'm giving Panda Free a run. I've been happy with Avast, both for myself and my clients, but it rates lower on protection and the number of unnecessary crap pop-ups is increasing. Many of my clients are even older than I am, some in the early stages of dementia, some just a little overwhelmed. The more pop-ups, the more my phone rings (and no, I don't charge for those calls). I want EFFECTIVE AV that keeps its head down and mouth shut unless there's something important to say.
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  2. Posts : 350
    Windows 7 Pro x64
       #31

    Golden said:
    Now you're being silly. The only time I recommend it, is when a different AV has been demonstrated to cause a BSOD. Fact
    You might not, but some do recommend it. Read post #12 of this thread.....
    "and always suggest MSE as my first AV suggestion."

    If a person wants to use such a poorly rated product for their own personal reasons they have every right to do so, but I would never knowingly advocate a product that is rated poorly by most or all the expert testers as is MSE.
    Last edited by Dallas 7; 01 Apr 2014 at 21:16.
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  3. Posts : 6,292
    Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
       #32

    MrWhoopee said:
    Having taken the time to go to av-test.org and read the test results,
    AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Jan/Feb 2014

    I'm giving Panda Free a run.
    Let us know what you think of it.
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  4. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #33

    TVeblen said:
    MrWhoopee said:
    Having taken the time to go to av-test.org and read the test results,
    AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Jan/Feb 2014

    I'm giving Panda Free a run.
    Let us know what you think of it.
    While not an issue for most users, Panda has yet to fix this bug:
    UAC security question
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  5. Posts : 4,161
    Windows 7 Pro-x64
       #34

    I run MSE. I run full scans every weekend before backups. It never finds anything. I run a full scan with MBAM, it doesn't find anything. I run AdwCleaner and it doesn't find anything. I run SuperAntiSpyware and it doesn't find anything. Once in a while, I'll run TDKiller and it doesn't find anything. So what am I missing here? As long as I get this kind of results, I'll keep using MSE and I'll keep recommending MSE. I see no reason to clutter my system with six or seven drivers running all the time from Avast, AVG, Norton, et. al. I think MSE uses two. MSE fits so smoothly with the OS that many AV reviews don't even include MSE as it was declared, by them, to be an OS update and blew the doors off everyone else with speed and efficiency. Others had to target MSE in the tests just to keep the other AVs in the same scale of graphs. Why would anyone think a site that derives it's income from AV sales give any support to a free AV from Microsoft? Microsoft isn't going to pay for a "certification". They don't need to.

    Added: I might add that I make extensive use of the host file and the built-in security of IE-11 and limit the use of Flash to specific sites. I would think anyone concerned with system security would do the same but the AV reviews never address this side of infections. They always start with the infections pre-installed.

    Just as some grip XP, I'll stay with MSE because it works for me. And when MS released a MSE version for XP, I immediately installed it on the other two machines here. :)
    Last edited by carwiz; 31 Mar 2014 at 08:59. Reason: Addition
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  6. Posts : 165
    Windows 7 Ultimate x86 and x64
       #35

    UsernameIssues said:
    TVeblen said:
    MrWhoopee said:
    Having taken the time to go to av-test.org and read the test results,
    AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Jan/Feb 2014

    I'm giving Panda Free a run.
    Let us know what you think of it.
    While not an issue for most users, Panda has yet to fix this bug:
    UAC security question

    After 24 hours, I like:
    Quick installation, no registration required.
    No sounds (that's just irritating, I always turn them off)
    I haven't seen a single pop-up of any sort. Keeping its head down and mouth shut.

    The UAC issue is interesting, but actually works to my advantage. I don't want my clients being asked too many questions. They get rattled and my phone rings. It may not be a bug, it may be a "feature".
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  7. Posts : 327
    Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
       #36

    I fired up the old XP machine yesterday, 8 days and counting. MSE's flag remains Orange now rather than Green and gives a notice that MSE is stopping support for the XP machines which includes MSE. I hate to subject the "old gal" to a fresh dose of Avast, MSE has done its job. I am on the 2nd day now with my W7 machine, Got Avast pretty much settled down from the annoying pop up's, voice notices, grime warnings, firewall notices, and all the other fluff etc. So far MSE is co-existing with Avast, but I have a fresh clone of W7 just in case.
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  8. Posts : 4,566
    Windows 10 Pro
       #37

    The uac issue with panda is a bug, panda confirmed and will be fixed with its new full version release. The whole interface is being redone and will have several performance improvements.

    Panda Cloud Antivirus 2.9 Beta
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  9. Posts : 53,365
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #38

    carwiz said:
    I run MSE. I run full scans every weekend before backups. It never finds anything. I run a full scan with MBAM, it doesn't find anything. I run AdwCleaner and it doesn't find anything. I run SuperAntiSpyware and it doesn't find anything. Once in a while, I'll run TDKiller and it doesn't find anything. So what am I missing here?
    If you have the correct setup and practices, you might have NO AV program and get the same result I too get no detections on all my scans, but I have had Avast pop up to advise a page was trying something, and it had stopped it.

    Ken, add Emsisoft free to your arsenal...it likely will find nothing either, but it's a good program as well. You get the full program for 30 days if you like. I never had need for another active antimalware, so I switch to free right away.

    https://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/antimalware/

    A Guy
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  10. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #39

    carwiz said:
    ~~~
    Added: I might add that I make extensive use of the host file and the built-in security of IE-11 and limit the use of Flash to specific sites. I would think anyone concerned with system security would do the same but the AV reviews never address this side of infections. They always start with the infections pre-installed.
    ~~~
    I'll add that I've had IE11's SmartScreen Filter prevent me from downloading a known bad file (that I wanted to study in my controlled environment). Once I got the known bad file on the computer, I installed MSE. MSE was did not declare the file as bad during a manual scan or when I installed it. This as happened on more than one known bad file. I'm not talking about PUP files, I'm talking about Trojans that have been in the wild for a day or so.

    I don't know exactly what we can draw from that info - other than to say MSE might need IE to help protect some users.




    When this computer got hit with a root kit (that MSE did not stop)...
    ...at least MSE stopped some of the flood of other infections that the root kit was bringing in.
    That alone might be enough of a reason to keep some antivirus tool installed - although, I could argue against using an antivirus app too. I'm flexible
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