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Windows 7 - Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses. |
11-04-2009
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#1 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. |
Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses. Quote: Now that we in the northern hemisphere have had some time to digest the Windows 7 hype and settle in for the coming winter, we thought we would get some more hard data regarding Windows 7 security.
On October 22nd, we settled in at SophosLabs and loaded a full release copy of Windows 7 on a clean machine. We configured it to follow the system defaults for User Account Control (UAC) and did not load any anti-virus software.
We grabbed the next 10 unique samples that arrived in the SophosLabs feed to see how well the newer, more secure version of Windows and UAC held up. Unfortunately, despite Microsoft's claims, Windows 7 disappointed just like earlier versions of Windows. The good news is that, of the freshest 10 samples that arrived, 2 would not operate correctly under Windows 7. More - Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses | Chester Wisniewski's Blog | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900. Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed ADSL [ but too slow ] |
11-05-2009
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Lol I find that funny really. A virus/malware is an application, you install it it will do bad things. An OS cannot tell the difference between malware and a well behaved application because they are the same. Now this I could have accept if the samples tested were left to infect the machine without user intervention. But during the installing process they are given administrative rights which could have done anything to the machine. This does not make the security of the OS any less. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron e1705 OS Windows 7 (7600) x86 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (2 GHz) Motherboard Unknown Dell MB Memory 2 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 (128 MB Dedicated) Sound Card SigmaTel HD Audio; Turtle Beach Audio Advantage SRM Monitor(s) Displays Laptop 17" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
11-05-2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth Lol I find that funny really. A virus/malware is an application, you install it it will do bad things. An OS cannot tell the difference between malware and a well behaved application because they are the same. Now this I could have accept if the samples testes were left to infect the machine without user intervention. But during the installing process they are given administrative rights which could have done anything to the machine. This does not make the security of the OS any less. I completely agree...The security of an OS is an independent variable of the security of a whole
Security of OS (40%) + Knowledge of User (60%) = Security of computer... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
11-05-2009
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#4 | | Vista HP, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro, Seven Ultimate x2 |
I am a little confused, did they have to click yes on the UAC prompt when installing the malware? or did it auto install and inffect the computer.
This doesn't acknowledge weather it is a failier in windows or just a user manully causeing the infection.
I am more concerned with the aspect of auto infecting my system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop, built by me. Laptop, built by ASUS OS Vista HP, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro, Seven Ultimate x2 CPU Desktop, AMD Athlon X2 6400+. Laptop, Intel C2D T9400 Motherboard Desktop, K9N Diamond. Laptop, Asus G50VT Memory Desktop, 4 GB PC2 6400. Laptop, 4 GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card Desktop, Nvidia 8800 Ultra OC. Laptop, Nvidia 9800M GS Sound Card Desktop, intergrated. Laptop, intergrated Monitor(s) Displays Sharp Aquos, In built Laptop, Dell ultra sharp Screen Resolution 46 inch 1920x1080, 15.4 inch 1680x1050, 24 inch, 1920x1200 Keyboard Desktop. Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 Mouse Desktop, Logitech track ball wired. PSU Desktop, Ultra X3 600 watt modular PSU, Laptop, a brick PSU Case Desktop, Ultra eXo Aluminum Chassis. Laptop, It's a laptop Cooling Desktop, 2 120mm ball bearing fans, ChillTec Thermo Electric Hard Drives Desktop, Veloci Raptor, Raptor X, WD 500GB. Laptop, 250 GB seagate and 320 GB Western Digital both at 7200 RPM. Plus one 320 GB external passport. Internet Speed 10 Mb I think Other Info There is no truth to any of our reality but what we want to believe.
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11-05-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 
Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth Lol I find that funny really. A virus/malware is an application, you install it it will do bad things. An OS cannot tell the difference between malware and a well behaved application because they are the same. Now this I could have accept if the samples testes were left to infect the machine without user intervention. But during the installing process they are given administrative rights which could have done anything to the machine. This does not make the security of the OS any less. I completely agree...The security of an OS is an independent variable of the security of a whole
Security of OS (40%) + Knowledge of User (60%) = Security of computer... Thirded. Initially I suspected that Mr. Wisniewski may simply be suffering from a mild case of intellectual disability, seeing as he was "testing OS security" by executing malware in an admin context. Nice one Chester
However, further reading leads me to believe the article is more of an oblique cry for help, peppered with you-connect-the-dots marketing:
"Lesson learned? You still need to run anti-virus on Windows 7."
"Windows 7 is no cure for the virus blues, so be sure to bring your protection when you boot up."
Site? www.sophos.com. Industry? They apparently make chandeliers and candelabras.
Last edited by H2SO4; 11-05-2009 at 01:29 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Multiple machines in various stages of decomposition. OS Win7x64 |
11-05-2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by H2SO4 
Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 
Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth Lol I find that funny really. A virus/malware is an application, you install it it will do bad things. An OS cannot tell the difference between malware and a well behaved application because they are the same. Now this I could have accept if the samples testes were left to infect the machine without user intervention. But during the installing process they are given administrative rights which could have done anything to the machine. This does not make the security of the OS any less. I completely agree...The security of an OS is an independent variable of the security of a whole
Security of OS (40%) + Knowledge of User (60%) = Security of computer... Thirded. Initially I suspected that Mr. Wisniewski may simply be suffering from a mild case of intellectual disability, seeing as he was "testing OS security" by executing malware in an admin context. Nice one Chester
However, further reading leads me to believe the article is more of an oblique cry for help, peppered with you-connect-the-dots marketing:
"Lesson learned? You still need to run anti-virus on Windows 7."
"Windows 7 is no cure for the virus blues, so be sure to bring your protection when you boot up."
Site? www.sophos.com. Industry? They apparently make chandeliers and candelabras. No offense to the OP but this thread just a waste of screen room
A chandelier maker commenting on the level of strength of a computer OS?
Does he more than just double-clicking an app? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
11-05-2009
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#7 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi |
Hi there
What a totally 100% uninformative article.
It's 100% pure BOVINE SCATOLOGY.
Any OS is vulnerable to user commands (like running bad programs).
Would the writer of the article say Linux was a vulnerable system because a user can login as ROOT and delete every directory on the disk or a car was dangerous because you could rev it up to 140 km /hr and then deliberately run it against a solid concrete wall.
Pure xxxx.
I think this article deserves this month's merit award (screenshot enc).
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses. problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:54 PM. |  |