| Windows 7: Registry Cleaner |
12 Sep 2010
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#11 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |

Quote: Originally Posted by Techymike I like what I like! You're right it does do a spectacular job. The first time I used the program it found over 2500 results that both CCleaner and MV RegClean had missed.
~Maxx~ | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP HPE 270f OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.8 Ghz Socket 1366 LGA Motherboard Pegatron Truckee v1.04E41 Memory 8 GB 1366 Mhz DDR3 (PC3-10700) RAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB DDR5 RAM Sound Card Realtech High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 32" Sony Bravia Screen Resolution 1366 X 768 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech MX Revolution Hard Drives Intel 25nm 120 GB Series 320 SSD HD Tune- 265 MBps Read/ 130 MBps Write
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12 Sep 2010
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#12 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. |

Quote: Originally Posted by winkerbie Finalizing my upgrade from vista 32 bit to Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, but I need a native 64 bit reigstry cleaner. Apparently 32bit cleaners are unable to recognise the whole registry that windows has, so it may cause more harm than good.
Could some recommened one that they are using with 64bit OS
winkerbie,
I agree with those who say a registry cleaner is not necessary in Win 7. IMO - there is no reliable way for a third party program to know whether any particular key is invalid, redundant or neither. Some registry cleaners may not know for sure whether a key is still being used by Windows or what detrimental effects removing it may have. This has led to examples of registry cleaners causing loss of functionality and/or system instability. Jan. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900. Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed ADSL [ but too slow ] |
12 Sep 2010
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#14 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
Whether or not one should use a registry cleaner is kinda like the other age old question: What is the best AV. After all is said and done, and all the pros and cons are aired, it comes down to personal preference.
The only words of wisdom I would offer is to make a backup of your current registry before using any registry cleaner. And I would further suggest backing up the registry by creating a System Restore point ... not by using the built-in backup feature many registry cleaners offer. My logic goes like this: if the registry cleaner doesn't work properly what makes you think its backup feature would work?
Just my 2˘. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup |
12 Sep 2010
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#15 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
If you are looking for a registry cleaner you are looking for trouble. For Windows 7 (as for Vista) that is an absolutely useless function that buys you nothing (but trouble). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12 Sep 2010
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Service Pack 1 |
I don't use registry cleaners. Instead of cleaning, they do the trashing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad Q8200 @ 2.33 GHz Motherboard Asus P5KPL-AM Motherboard Memory 2x1GB Apacer DDR2 667 MHz Graphics Card 1GB NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT Sound Card VIA Technologies High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 733NW Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Generic Plug & Play Keyboard Mouse Optical Mouse Case Custom Casing Cooling Ice cubes from the freezer ;) Hard Drives SEAGATE 320GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache x 2 Internet Speed Very slow |
12 Sep 2010
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit Philippines |
Use registry cleaners if you know what you are doing. I disagree with the guys who are one sided and say you don't absolutely need to use a registry cleaner on Windows 7. I say you do need them but stay away if you don't know where the keys found lead to. They can help you remove remnants or malware and remove applications. If you have a system with 1 GB or below amount of RAM, the performance does degrade noticeably after some time and using a registry cleaner will improve that a but but destroy a few things if you remove something really needed.
Those dead keys that lead to entries of uninstalled programs are relatively safe to delete but those that you don't know, better leave them be and always reserve a backup such as a restore point or use a program called Erunt to backup the whole registry before any cleaning.
If you have any questions about registry cleaners, always use the search function so that you can see the dozens of threads that talk about it and from there, maybe you can weigh the pros and cons and decide for yourself if you need a registry cleaner.
Iobit System Care is a fair program, but if I was an inexperienced user, I would not use its registry cleaner and system optimization tools but the tools besides those are safe. CCleaner is a light registry cleaner. Its relatively safer than many other registry cleaning tools out there but even that has caused problems. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit CPU Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2180@2GHz Motherboard Elitegroup 671T-M3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7200 GS Monitor(s) Displays AOC TFT1560 15" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1024x768 Keyboard Logitech USB Keyboard |
12 Sep 2010
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit Orlando, Florida |

Quote: Originally Posted by JMH 
Quote: Originally Posted by winkerbie Finalizing my upgrade from vista 32 bit to Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, but I need a native 64 bit reigstry cleaner. Apparently 32bit cleaners are unable to recognise the whole registry that windows has, so it may cause more harm than good.
Could some recommened one that they are using with 64bit OS
winkerbie,
I agree with those who say a registry cleaner is not necessary in Win 7. IMO - there is no reliable way for a third party program to know whether any particular key is invalid, redundant or neither. Some registry cleaners may not know for sure whether a key is still being used by Windows or what detrimental effects removing it may have. This has led to examples of registry cleaners causing loss of functionality and/or system instability. Jan. Absolutely correct. 
Quote: Originally Posted by whs If you are looking for a registry cleaner you are looking for trouble. For Windows 7 (as for Vista) that is an absolutely useless function that buys you nothing (but trouble). Spot on, whs. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex Use registry cleaners if you know what you are doing. I disagree with the guys who are one sided and say you don't absolutely need to use a registry cleaner on Windows 7. I say you do need them but stay away if you don't know where the keys found lead to. They can help you remove remnants or malware and remove applications. If you have a system with 1 GB or below amount of RAM, the performance does degrade noticeably after some time and using a registry cleaner will improve that a but but destroy a few things if you remove something really needed.
Those dead keys that lead to entries of uninstalled programs are relatively safe to delete but those that you don't know, better leave them be and always reserve a backup such as a restore point or use a program called Erunt to backup the whole registry before any cleaning.
If you have any questions about registry cleaners, always use the search function so that you can see the dozens of threads that talk about it and from there, maybe you can weigh the pros and cons and decide for yourself if you need a registry cleaner.
Iobit System Care is a fair program, but if I was an inexperienced user, I would not use its registry cleaner and system optimization tools but the tools besides those are safe. CCleaner is a light registry cleaner. Its relatively safer than many other registry cleaning tools out there but even that has caused problems. I pretty much agree with Vertex and his approach is on the money. The point with which I partially disagree is this: "I say you do need them but stay away if you don't know where the keys found lead to."
Except in very rare instances, registry cleaners are not needed for Win 7. Removing dead keys will not make one millisecond's difference in Win 7's operating speed. It does not hurt anything to remove dead keys; but there are no gains. Win 7 manages the registry much differently than did XP. Those who are applying XP knowledge to Win 7's registry will come to grief sooner or later.
Win 7 includes some keys, notably the unused extension keys, that make installation of new programs easier and file associations more accurate. It has other keys that may not be used now; but down the road will be needed. You can easily shoot yourself in the foot by blindly following a registry cleaner - and you will end up posting in the Crashes and Debugging section where the recommendation will be a clean install. It has happened and still happens. If you limit yourself to deleting keys that are associated with software you know you have uninstalled, you will be safe. If you never touch the registry, Win 7 will run just fine.
I know you die-hard registry cleaners advocates will not heed this and you will learn the hard way - like I did.  I then did the research I should have done before hand and learned. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
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12 Sep 2010
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#19 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |

Quote: Originally Posted by frzwin7 I don't use registry cleaners. Instead of cleaning, they do the trashing. I've used several different flavors of Registry Cleaners for many years now in both Vista x86 and Win 7 x64 which accounts for over 1,000 Registry cleaning sessions and I have never on any of those occasions ever noticed a 'thrashing' of the Registry nor ever noticed any negative impact whatsoever on computer performance. Are we also not to use the Revo Uninstaller also because it removes the unused Registry keys of programs that have been uninstalled?
I'm not recommending that anyone maintain the size of their computer's Registry by using Revo or a Registry cleaner if they believe it might harm their computer's Registry all I'm saying is that in my own personal experience I have used these tools to rid the Registry of no longer used keys on an ongoing basis for many years and that I have never had to use the backups I've made to repair any kind of damage to the Registry or negative effect on the functioning of my Vista x86 or Win 7 x64 computers as a result of ridding it of unused keys and some uninstalled programs leave 100's and 100's of no longer used Registry Keys...
~Maxx~
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Last edited by Maxxwire; 12 Sep 2010 at 05:02 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP HPE 270f OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.8 Ghz Socket 1366 LGA Motherboard Pegatron Truckee v1.04E41 Memory 8 GB 1366 Mhz DDR3 (PC3-10700) RAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB DDR5 RAM Sound Card Realtech High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 32" Sony Bravia Screen Resolution 1366 X 768 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech MX Revolution Hard Drives Intel 25nm 120 GB Series 320 SSD HD Tune- 265 MBps Read/ 130 MBps Write
LaCie 1TB + 1TB RAID 0 eSATA Drive HD Tune- 160 MBps Read/ 90 MBps Write Internet Speed 36.4 Mbps Maximum on a 37 Mbps Motorola SB501 Modem |
12 Sep 2010
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[QUOTE=Maxxwire;953614] 
Quote: Originally Posted by Techymike I like what I like! You're right it does do a spectacular job. The first time I used the program it found over 2500 results that both CCleaner and MV RegClean had missed.
Wow! You zapped 2500 entries and got away with it? Your confidence is to be admired. I enjoy poking around in the reg but I've never been able to bring myself to action when those big numbers come up. CC is about my limit and even then I backup. Guess I.m too old for this game...... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HB OS W7x64 Ult. CPU i7 975 Motherboard P6T7 SC Memory 12GB Corsair Dom Graphics Card Evga GTX285 Sound Card OB Monitor(s) Displays HP LP2475 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU PC Power & Cooling 950 Case Chieftec Bravo Cooling Air 6 GentleTyphoon Hard Drives Velociraptors Raid0 BU
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