| Windows 7: Uninstalling F-Secure |
24 Nov 2010
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#1 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
Uninstalling F-Secure I "temporarily" installed this program a while back, in an attempt to solve a problem, but all that it did was to create another, because I can't seem to get rid of it. I put the problem on the back burner until now, because it didn't seem to create a problem.
My normal firewall/AV is Outpost, and it didn't seem to care that F-Secure was also installed, but I guess that was because it was installed first. However, when I just attempted to install an update for Outpost, it complained that F-Secure was installed and created an incompatibility problem, and the install failed.
Trying to remove it from Programs And Features failed with a message to attempt it again logged in as administrator. However, I was already logged in as such, so I tried once more from Safe Mode, but that produced the same result.
I then installed Revo Uninstaller and tried, but when I opened the program, it revved the CPU to 50%, and after a few seconds, it crashed.
The obvious question is how to get F-Secure securely off my system? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
24 Nov 2010
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#2 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
I finally got the problem resolved...partially, after getting Revo to work. However, even though I had Revo do the Advance uninstall, which was supposed to search for all files, reg keys, etc., it apparently left something behind, because OutPost still complains about it on setup. I unchecked F-Secure in the OP setup, which was supposed to tell it that F-Secure was not installed, but then it produced a window saying that installation was impossible, yet when closing that, the installation proceeded. I did a manual search of the registry, and found a number of F-Secure key remaining, which I deleted, so I guess that Revo's search is not very thorough. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
24 Nov 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Utah |
I use outpost as well and you may have to uninstall that first, but first download a copy of your uninstaller and set the match level to the average setting and then use the super-mode uninstall to uninstall it, but when it asks you to restart the computer say no and do it after your uninstaller completes it's tasks. Then download a small shareware program called effective file search and make sure you unhide all folders and files even the system files on the drive, you know how to do that. Open effective file search and go to the options menu and select files folders and archives for the search parameters and then type outpost in the search bar for drive C:\ and hit search. Anything it finds delete it and if it says you don't have permission then make yourself the owner of the folder and all it's sub contents from the security tab. And do the same thing for f-secure as well, to delete something you don't have access to you sometimes have to remove all permissions from that folder especially when it has a creator, owner or a trusted installer in the security types, if it does go into the advanced button select "change permissions" and delete everybody in there, sometimes it will say it can't do it but continue anyway and it will. Then close all those windows and then open up the security tab again and then go to the owners tab and select administrator as the owner and close the tabs again and reopen them again and set the permissions tab and create the administrator and you the user as having all permissions of sub-folders and files. Now come the registry and a program called jv-16 tools by macecraft will remove the registry entries. It has a feature that lets you search for certain entries that other registry programs miss. Download it and use the registry tools menu and the select find registry entries. Then type in the search box:
Agnitum
Outpost
f-secure
and any other word that could be associated the manufactures name what ever you can think of and search your registry and delete everything jv tools finds, some entries won't delete cause of permissions but that wont matter for the outpost but if the traces are left by f-secure right click on the registry entry and jvtools will open up regedit exactly to the place that you need to get rid of the key by changing the permissions like we did above. Just be sure to get all the tools to do this with cause you know you will have your internet disconnected through the entire progress...I know this sounds really extreme but in some cases such as these it is necessary. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built be me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Amd dual-core 4400 Socket 979 Motherboard Asus A8N-SLI Memory Kingston 3gb ddr 3200 Graphics Card Radeon Sapphire HD5670 1gb GDDR5 Artic cooling Sound Card Standard Motherboards Realtec Monitor(s) Displays IC Power Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0 PSU 600 watt power star Case Lian-Li Aluminum Cooling MassCool Socket 979 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb Sata 16mb Cache 7200 rpm Primary Drive
300gb Maxtor IDE
Seagate 500gb usb freeagent backup drive Internet Speed 5mb Other Info The system as of now is about a year old and the OS was installed on 11/30/2010.. |
07 Dec 2010
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#4 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
I got the program uninstalled, but scraps of it remain. Numerous registry keys, which I deleted with The Registrar editor, which is thorough...perhaps too thorough, because the OS experienced a lot of problems afterward, and two items remain in Non-Plug And Play Drivers, which even when uninstalled, return after rebooting.
I did use your suggestion with EFS, but with F-Secure, it found nothing that should have any effect. However, when searching for fs_rec, it found three items as shown below. Not being familiar with these locations, I'm not certain if they are significant or how careful to be with deleting them? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
07 Dec 2010
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#5 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
krokusnat,
Neither jv16 nor the cleaner that I normally use (CMPC) found a single reg key or value relating to F-Secure. However, The Registrar which is kind of an advanced form of regedit found ~316 keys and values that are clearly F-Secure's. I'm reluctant to simply delete these, because when I did that previously, it caused a lot of problems, which forced me to restore the OS from an image. I may do that yet, if I find no other solution, because I have definitely determined that F-Secure is the cause for my O&O defragger not to work.
I'm not certain, but I think that the problem is more due to what is not there (F-Secure uninstalled), because it appears that due to the reg keys, that it is detouring the defragger to a place that doesn't exist. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
08 Dec 2010
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#6 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
I finally fixed the problem and have O&O working again. I gave up actually fixing it and dug around until I found an older backup image (10-13-2010) and restored from it. This means that I have a couple of months to catchup on changes made since then, but at least I'm not banging my head against a wall. Needless to say, F-Secure shall never "grace" my system again, and I would strongly recommend that if anyone else decides to install it, that they make a System Restore point prior to doing so. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
09 Dec 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Utah |

Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister I finally fixed the problem and have O&O working again. I gave up actually fixing it and dug around until I found an older backup image (10-13-2010) and restored from it. This means that I have a couple of months to catchup on changes made since then, but at least I'm not banging my head against a wall. Needless to say, F-Secure shall never "grace" my system again, and I would strongly recommend that if anyone else decides to install it, that they make a System Restore point prior to doing so. I really sounds like f-secure is trying to control every little nook and cranny of the computer and programs like that which I'm sad to say have graced my system from time to time the only solution was to go from a clean install and really do my homework before installing anything like a program such as suites and stuff. They can create a lot of problems that aren't really worth it. I'm sorry you had to go through that seekermeister....bummer | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built be me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Amd dual-core 4400 Socket 979 Motherboard Asus A8N-SLI Memory Kingston 3gb ddr 3200 Graphics Card Radeon Sapphire HD5670 1gb GDDR5 Artic cooling Sound Card Standard Motherboards Realtec Monitor(s) Displays IC Power Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0 PSU 600 watt power star Case Lian-Li Aluminum Cooling MassCool Socket 979 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb Sata 16mb Cache 7200 rpm Primary Drive
300gb Maxtor IDE
Seagate 500gb usb freeagent backup drive Internet Speed 5mb Other Info The system as of now is about a year old and the OS was installed on 11/30/2010.. |
10 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 - Home Premium - 64bit - v6.1 - 7600 Middle Earth |
did you check F-Secure website re, uninstalling?? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Prebuilt OS Windows 7 - Home Premium - 64bit - v6.1 - 7600 CPU Pentium Dual-Core E6600 @ 3.06GHZ Motherboard ASUS P5G41C-M LX Memory 4GB Graphics Card GeForce 210 Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dell E172FP Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Mouse Microsoft USB Intellimouse PSU 520 WATT Case Unknown Cooling Unknown Hard Drives ST3500418AS ATA - 500GB,
WD 3200BEV External - 320GB Internet Speed 8 - 10 Mbps (DL) .40 -.80 Mbps (UL) Other Info Huawei HG556a Modem |
10 Dec 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Utah |

Quote: Originally Posted by targnik did you check F-Secure website re, uninstalling??  I did and it basically states to just uninstall it the regular way which obviously didn't help much. I have ran into a few programs like this that require a lot more hands on uninstalling procedures. Nero for example just uninstalling it doesn't remove everything necessary unless you use their nero clean for example... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built be me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Amd dual-core 4400 Socket 979 Motherboard Asus A8N-SLI Memory Kingston 3gb ddr 3200 Graphics Card Radeon Sapphire HD5670 1gb GDDR5 Artic cooling Sound Card Standard Motherboards Realtec Monitor(s) Displays IC Power Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0 PSU 600 watt power star Case Lian-Li Aluminum Cooling MassCool Socket 979 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb Sata 16mb Cache 7200 rpm Primary Drive
300gb Maxtor IDE
Seagate 500gb usb freeagent backup drive Internet Speed 5mb Other Info The system as of now is about a year old and the OS was installed on 11/30/2010.. |
10 Dec 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 32 bit Burntwood, Staffordshire, ENGLAND |
There is a dead easy way out of problems. Invest in ACRONIS or similar, together with a large plug in hard drive, and make regular mirror images. Problems solved.  | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Privately built OS Windows 7 32 bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz Motherboard ASAUS P5KPL/1600 Memory 4GB Graphics Card AOC LM729 on NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS Sound Card On board Monitor(s) Displays AOC LM729 @ 1280x1024 Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024 Keyboard Trust PS/2 Mouse Trust PS/2 PSU Intel core 2 DUO E8400 Case Antec Hard Drives 1X150BG 1X250GB Internet Speed 10Mb Uninstalling F-Secure problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:46 AM. | |