| Windows 7: A question about the virtual pc |
22 Dec 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Bulgaria |
A question about the virtual pc Hello guys,
I have been wondering for some time about the virtual pc option, and I can't fully understand what it does. I have read numerios documents about it and I still can't get it. My question is, what is its primary purpose, can I install another OS on it and is it something like a '' sandbox '' for files? Since I am still learning how to install Win 7 if the virtual pc offers an installation of another OS it will be great to test myself there, but I am still very confused about that stuff.
Please help!
Best Regards
Stefany | My System Specs |
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22 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Rednecksville |
You seem to have a good perception of it. Virtual PC allows you to create virtual computers, which you can install operating systems on like a real one. It is a good tool for "sandbox".
Since you have Windows 7 Ultimate, you can get XP Mode for free. That is a virtual XP machine.
Here's a link: Download Windows XP Mode | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K OC'd @ 4620 MHz Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V Pro Memory 16GB GSkill Sniper 2133 Mhz (4x4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+ Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 2x Acer S273HLbmii 27" Screen Resolution 2 x 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK320 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK320 (wireless) PSU Corsair HW Series 750w (modular) Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition Cooling CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler, 3x 230mm + 1x 140mm case fans Hard Drives 64GB Crucial M4 SSD
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22 Dec 2010
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#3 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Stefany, a virtual sytem (some call it Partition) is essentially another PC on your system. You can install another Windows OS (XP, Vista, Windows 7, even Win98), Linux, Solaris or even OS-X (although that is not recommended) on it. It shares the resources (RAM and Disk space) with your Host system.
If you want to venture into that, I highly recommend Virtual Box. It is the easiest to setup and operate. Make sure you activate the Guest additions within your guest OS. Then you have seamless operation of the guest and the host (at the same time).
There are many people here who are real experts (not me though). Do not hesitate to ask further questions as they come up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
22 Dec 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I looked at it briefly and was not impressed.
Yes, it works and yes you can install an OS, install programs, etc. The "virtual PC" is just another file on your "real PC".
But there are limitations.
How much RAM are you willing to let it have?
How much of a reduction in response time are you willing to tolerate compared to what you are accustomed?
You might not be impressed with the graphics end of things.
But all you can do is try. You can get a feeling for it in a day or two.
I was considering it in order to run a 16 bit application that won't run on 64 bit Windows.
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22 Dec 2010
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#5 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic I looked at it briefly and was not impressed.
Yes, it works and yes you can install an OS, install programs, etc. The "virtual PC" is just another file on your "real PC".
But there are limitations.
How much RAM are you willing to let it have?
How much of a reduction in response time are you willing to tolerate compared to what you are accustomed?
You might not be impressed with the graphics end of things.
But all you can do is try. You can get a feeling for it in a day or two.
I was considering it in order to run a 16 bit application that won't run on 64 bit Windows.
You may decide that dual-booting another OS is preferable. My experience is just the opposite. Ubuntu in vBox is really fast for e.g. picture manipulation, the internet (but I use Chrome in lieu of FF which is a dog) and any other operation I have thrown at it. I guess you could not do any gaming there, but that is not my thing anyhow.
I have a 2.5GHz duo core CPU and vBox got 1GB of my total 3GBs, plus 25GB of my SSD space.
The beauty of that setup is that I can seamlessly switch between the host and the guest (courtesy of the Guest Additions) and I still have access to my Windows 7 host taskbar and my tweaked sidebar from my Vista system as well as my Windows 7 Rocket Dock. I sometimes use host features (e.g. snips) on the Ubuntu guest machine which runs (nearly - less the Windows 7 bars) full screen on a 22" monitor. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
23 Dec 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Bulgaria |
Thank you very much for the useful tips, guys. Now I completely understood what that thing meant
Merry Xmas everyone! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The cousin of our lawyer sold it to us. OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Dual Core Memory 2GB RAM Graphics Card 8800 something Monitor(s) Displays Small monitor, and not flat Mouse Logitech Cooling It has a strong ventilator, I can perfectly hear it :P Hard Drives 320 GB HDD Internet Speed No idea. |
23 Dec 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |
You already got good explanations, but let me add something.
A virtual machine is simply a "computer" running on virtualized hardware, in Windows it means you can have a virtual machine running as an almost real computer in an Explorer process (window or full screen). Depending on which virtualization application you use to run a virtual machine, it can really be almost as any real computer. The most common free applications to use and start testing and ""playing" with virtual machines are Microsoft Virtual PC, Oracle VirtualBox and VMware Player. You can read more about virtual machines here: Virtual machine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Some examples. Here you can see five operating systems running on single computer. Four guest virtual machines, two older versions of Windows (NT 4 and 2000), alongside with Linux (Ubuntu) and Unix (Solaris), all four running in explorer windows on my host computer's Windows 7 desktop. I can freely and seamless move between different operating systems, mouse and keyboard are captured by currently active one. All computers are shown in my network as individual computers, with their own IP-address:
Here a scenario that I really like and use quite often. Windows 7 on dual screen system. Screen 1 on the left running Solaris Unix in full screen, screen 2 on the right Windows 2000 in full screen. Because taskbar is visible, I can also use all Windows 7 resources and applications, as here in screenshot I'm having my Windows 7 webbrowser on top of the Windows 2000 window:
Virtual computing is really fun!
Kari
Last edited by Kari; 23 Dec 2010 at 01:12 PM..
Reason: Ups! Mixed RIGHT and LEFT once again, had to correct it ;)
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23 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Kari, this is a very nice posting. Unfortunately I have to give you virtual reps because of the 15. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
23 Dec 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |
Thanks, Wolfgang. It's the thought that counts | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
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23 Dec 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Bulgaria |
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