| Windows 7: Nero 10 incompatibility. Suggestions for equivalent software? |
26 Apr 2011
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#1 | | Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail Perth,West Australia |
Nero 10 incompatibility. Suggestions for equivalent software? Solved: After installing Intel RAID Rapid Storage drivers on both my computers, which have SATA hard drives and burners, then Nero 7, 8, 10 and 11 all ran flawlessly on Vista and Windows 7. RAID Rapid Storage provides improved performanace and reliability for systems equipped with SATA discs for desktop, mobile and server platforms.
I had been running Nero 8 on Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit on my old PC without any problems. After building a new PC with Intel i7 960 CPU, Intel DX58SO2 Extreme mobo, Corsair SSD SATA 3 Hard Drive ... suddenly Nero 8 would not work.
I thought I had solved the problem by running it in compatibility mode WinXP (SP2), and also switching off Windows burning software. However this was a temporary respite, with intermittent success ... and a lot of destroyed blank data discs.
I next tried Nero 10 Burning ROM Trial version with the latest updates. And this was a disaster. Problems included inability to load the program, (eventually solved); inability to run properly with burn failures causing unuseable discs, and BSODs. After 15 or more email exchanges with Nero tech support, including log reports, etc, I finally gave up on it. Nero said it was the wrong media, but I had tried several different brands and +/- R and RW.
The irony of it was that on the same: PC, mobo, burners, (same driver versions in burners), media, 3rd party software ... etc, etc ... Nero 10 Burning ROM ran flawlessly on Win XP Pro. So the conflict lay in Windows 10 Ultimate. I have tried numerous other burning software but can't find one that can duplicate what is for me, an essential feature in Nero. I mainly burn data multisession +/-R DVDs. These discs are regularly updated. As distinct from drag/dropping folders or files from the desktop to the burning window profile, Nero allows files to be drag/dropped within the burning window profile between existing folders on an existing mulitsession disc.
When I am editing an existing multisession data DVD, with Nero I can create a new folder, and drag/drop existing folders from other locations on the disc into the new folder. Or if a file has been burnt in a wrong folder, I can drag/drop it into the correct existing folder. Or I can move files out of a folder to any other location on the disc.
On all the other software burners I have tried, the only way to do it is to delete the files in the wrong place and re-burn them into a new location, which is archaic compared to Nero.
My preferred other choice would be Roxio but don't know if it has this feature? My old Roxio does not which is why I went to Nero. Unfortunately I cannot find the option for a trial version of Roxio before buying and don't want to shell out the $$$ until I know it has this feature and will work on my system.
Can anyone help on this issue either with a simple freeware burner that allows existing multisession folders to be moved to other locations on the profile; or a retail brand that will do the same thing that I can trial before buying. Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is a major pain in the butt for me. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
26 Apr 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
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26 Apr 2011
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#3 | | Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail Perth,West Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee Thanks for the input Jacee.
Among others I have already tried Ashampoo, ImgBurn, CDBurnerXP, Alcohol120%, Burnaware, and quite a few others, and none have the feature I'm after.
I was hoping someone might know from personal experience if Roxio has it. Or any other burner.
Strangley enough the closest I've come to success is with Nero 7 OEM essentials, but even with this, it's a lottery every time I do a burn ... success rate about 70%. Which means 3 out of 10 blank discs go in the bin. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
26 Apr 2011
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Windows 7 have a built in feature call Live File System. Basically, it lets you use a CD/DVD some what like a flash drive. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...-use#section_2 Quote: Understanding the difference between the Live File System and Mastered disc formats
If you have burned CDs using Windows XP, you are already familiar with the Mastered format. The latest version of Windows offers a new format, called Live File System. Discs that use the Live File System format are often more convenient because you can copy selected files immediately and as often as you want, as if the disc were a floppy disc or USB flash drive. On the other hand, Live File System discs can’t be used in all computers and devices. Use this guide to understand the difference between Live File System and Mastered discs: Discs formatted with the Live File System option: - Work like a USB flash drive or floppy disk, meaning you can copy files to disc immediately without having to burn them.
- Are convenient if you want to keep a disc in the burn drive and copy files whenever the need arises.
- Are only compatible with Windows XP and later versions of Windows.
Discs formatted with the Mastered option: - Don’t copy files immediately, meaning you need to select the entire collection of files that you want to copy to the disc, and then burn them all at once.
- Are convenient if you want to burn a large collection of files, such as a music CD.
- Are compatible with older computers and devices such as CD players and DVD players.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
26 Apr 2011
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#5 | | Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android Mauritius |
Did you try removing Nero completely with Revo uninstaller then reinstalling it? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz Motherboard Asus Rampage formula LGA775 Memory 8GB DDR2 900Mhz Graphics Card Zotac GTX 460OC 2GB GDDR5/Asus EN9600GT 1GB DDR3 PhyX Sound Card Supreme FX2 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Prolink keyboard Mouse Prolink optical mouse PSU Cooler Master GX 650W Cooling Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans Hard Drives 3X500GB hitachi, 2TB internal, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung Internet Speed 1MiB/s Other Info 5.1 System + 2.1 System |
26 Apr 2011
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#6 | | win7 Ult 64 Northern California |
As mentioned above, you should download and run the Nero Clean Tool for a clean uninstall.
If you still have imgburn on the system, post a screen of the "Filter Driver Load Order" under tools. You just might have some bad upper and lower filters on your system since you have been trying so many different burning softwares.
Roxio version 10 will give you all of the features of the latest Nero programs but I think that both Roxio and Nero are far to bloated and the majority of folks will never use all of the features available. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number My Build OS win7 Ult 64 CPU i7 3930K & 3960X Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe Memory 16GB G-Skill 2133MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7970 Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 27 inch Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Mionix Mouse Mionix PSU Corsair AX1200 Case NZXT 810 Cooling Custom Loop, Swiftech HDBlock Hard Drives Crucial M4 256GB, 1.5TB WD Black for Data/Images Internet Speed Cable |
26 Apr 2011
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+1 for the above. I think that your installation of Nero10 was somehow screwed up. The fact is that many had experienced problems while installing and after, all due to an improper installation.
Clean your Nero Install using Nero Clean tool to remove it completely.
Download and install the full version of .netframework4. ( Do not allow Nero10 to install it for you. This seems to have created problems for many,IMO) If you had already installed may be a cleanup to remove all traces of it is desirable.
The aim is to start with a clean slate, install .net4 on your own steam and then install Nero10
In all probability, this should clear up your problem. Do not give up easily. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self-assembled OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H Revision 1.0 Memory Transcend DDR2 (PC2 6400) 4 X 1GB Graphics Card Integrated + ATI Radeon 4550 Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC 889A Monitor(s) Displays DELL 1704 FPT Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft - wired Mouse Microsoft - wired PSU Coolermaster 400 W Case Zebronics Cube Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar SE16 250 GB x2 in RAID 0 Internet Speed ADSL 256-512Kbps |
26 Apr 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1 Gallifrey |
I like Ashampoo Burning Studio 10. I have had no issues with it on 64 bit Windows 7. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1 CPU Intel i7 3770k Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V LK Memory 8 GB Patriot G2 1600MHz DDR3 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon 7870 Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays Gateway FHX2402L Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Logitech K800 Mouse Logitech T620 PSU Corsair 750 TX Case Cooler Master Cooling Stock fan Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 4 256 GB Internet Speed 15.20 Mb/s download 2.09 Mb/s upload (Speedtest.net) Other Info First Computer used: A Commodore Pet of course
Love using LinuxMint 14 Cinnamon and Windows 7 |
26 Apr 2011
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#9 | | Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit |
I'm running Nero 9 under Windows 7 and it works without problems.
I downloaded and started to install the trial for Nero 10 -- and was presented with a huge list of stuff it wanted to install! I killed off the installation. And, since I regularly do image backups before such experiments, I restored from backup and all is OK again.
Perhaps is not Nero 10 -- but the other things it installed that are the problem. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit CPU AMD 4400/Intel 915 Motherboard ASUS/Intel Memory 2GB DDR 400 Graphics Card ATI X1600/Builtin Intel 915 Sound Card Bluegear B-Enspirer/Builtin sound Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" widescreen Screen Resolution 1920x1200/1024 x 768 |
26 Apr 2011
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#10 | | Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail Perth,West Australia |
Thank you all for your input.
1. logicearth Quote: Windows 7 have a built in feature call Live File System. Basically, it lets you use a CD/DVD some what like a flash drive. Yes, I was aware of this, but I want a data disc that cannot be accidentally deleted or edited except through a burning program.
2. yowanvist Quote: Did you try removing Nero completely with Revo uninstaller then reinstalling it? Yes, I always use Revo Uninstaller to remove programs, including registry entries and left over files, etc.
3. Kipper Quote: As mentioned above, you should download and run the Nero Clean Tool for a clean uninstall. If you still have imgburn on the system, post a screen of the "Filter Driver Load Order" under tools. I did use Nero Clean Tool as instructed by Nero techos. I also did follow up manual cleaning as directed by Nero for files from older versions of Nero that Nero Clean Tool won't pick up. These included checks for Ahead and Nero in:
Program files
Program Files > Common Files
AppData > Local > Temp
Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_USER > Software
Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > Software
I don't have imgBurn on my system - unistalled with Revo.
4. Ponmayilal Quote: Download and install the full version of .netframework4. Now that is something I have not tried, and will do so. I can load a pristine Acronis image of my OS with Nero 8 OEM installed which I'll remove with Revo Uninstaller; then check with Nero Clean Tool; and finally use the manual clean steps suggested by Nero techos.
5. Commodore Pet Quote: I like Ashampoo Burning Studio 10. I have had no issues with it on 64 bit Windows 7. I have no grievances with Ashampoo except that it did not have the option mentioned in my first post: Quote: As distinct from drag/dropping folders or files from the desktop to the burning window profile, Nero allows files to be drag/dropped within the burning window profile between existing folders on an existing mulitsession disc. That was the whole point of the post. To find a burning software that has this option.
6. Mark Phelps Quote: And, since I regularly do image backups before such experiments, I restored from backup and all is OK again. I also do Acronis clean install images as mentioned above in Item 4. It's not a case of getting my system back to clean install condition, but of getting Nero 10 to run properly; or finding alternative software that has the option to edit files inside the burn window profile.
I don't have Nero 9.
In summary, out of all of that, the only thing I can really try is the susggestion by Ponmayilal to: - Do a restore pristine Acronis image.
- Uninstall Nero 8 with Revo Uninstaller and check with Nero Clean Tool and manual search.
- Install NetFramework 4
- Try a clean install of Nero 10 Burning ROM Trial.
Thaks all. PB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, Nero 10 incompatibility. Suggestions for equivalent software? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:06 AM. | |