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Windows 7: Looking for free or cheap alternative to Adobe Premiere


18 Jul 2011   #1

Windows 7 ULT 32 bit
 
 
Looking for free or cheap alternative to Adobe Premiere

Hi all,

I use Adobe Premiere for editing movies on different layers and for the complexity of creating motion graphics and such.

But I have a friend who can't spring for that kind of cash right now, but she wants to edit movies on different layers too.

Is there something close to Adobe Premiere for Windows that is open source/free available out there?

I checked the GNU.org site but they don't show anything in the realm of movie editing software on their site.

Thanks for any suggestions for my friend,

digi

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18 Jul 2011   #2

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A search engine can be your friend, mine sees: open source/free alternative to Adobe Premiere - Google Search

I choose this: Free And Open Source Adobe Premiere Pro Alternatives - AlternativeTo.net

I would look at Avidemux - Main Page and Welcome to virtualdub.org! - virtualdub.org

As with Adobe Premiere, I would think they would also have a steep learning curve.

One caveat'...
The user needs to make sure the program will run on their system!
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18 Jul 2011   #3

Windows 7 ULT 32 bit
 
 

Hi anak,

Thanks for your reply

I have been and I am doing a search as we speak.

Avidmux and VirtualDub are not multi-track editors, I don't believe.

All these others are for Linux... I know allot of the GNU software is written somewhat to spite Windows, so much of it isn't written for Windows, but is written for Linux and UNIX...

Openshot... for Linux... OpenShot Video Editor

Open Movie Editor... for Linux... Open Movie Editor - Free and Open Source Video Editor

Lives... for Linux... LiVES Video Editing System - Because the media should be open

Ubuntu Studio... for Linux... Home | Ubuntu Studio

There is this Wikipedia page on free video editors, but the choices are so vast it is difficult to tell which is for multi-track editors...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...video_software

Two that I did just find are...

ZS4 Video Editor... for Windows...
About | t@b ZS4 Free Video Editing Software
http://www.softspecialist.com/ZS4-Vi...deo-Editor.htm

and

Quickmix... for Mac...
Download QuickMix 1.2.1 Free - Multi-track video editor - Softpedia


I know there is no true replacement for something like Premiere, and learning it hasn't been that bad. But my friend just wants to put some layered video together in the simplest way, so I'm going to check out the "ZS4 Video Editor" for her and keep Quickmix in mind for my Macs and other friends who have Macs too.

Otherwise, I'll stick with my old faithful Premiere 6 that works great on Windows 7 for my main multi-track editor.

Thanks for the Linux refs... I use VirtualDub for some stuff, but that isn't a multi-track editor, nor is Avidmux... correct me if I'm mistaken.
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18 Jul 2011   #4

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You have presented some fine choices.

Have you considered Windows Live Movie Maker 2011 or Kdenlive?

That link for Kden shows a way for Windows, fourth one to the right.

Quote:
Thanks for the Linux refs... I use VirtualDub for some stuff, but that isn't a multi-track editor, nor is Avidmux... correct me if I'm mistaken.
I believe you are correct.
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18 Jul 2011   #5

Windows 7 ULT 32 bit
 
 

Hi anak,

I and my friend both use Windows Live Movie Maker 2011, aka WLMM2011, but it isn't a multi-track editor. Actually, the older versions of Windows Movie Maker, version 6 and version 2.6, are somewhat preferred by the Windows Movie Making community. I like all three for the advantages that they each have over each other, but Windows Movie Maker 6 offers the sharpest WMV file output and for that reason, I use it for bringing together elements from Adobe Premiere, PhotoStory, CamStudio and Photoshop... but I still use WLMM for a few things that MM6 and MM2.6 don't do, and vice-verse... but none of the Windows Movie Makers apps are multi-track editors.

Kdenlive and 64 Studio ( 64 Studio | Have GNU/Linux your way! ) are two more Linux based multi-track editors that I found earlier but didn't include in my examples before.

The description on the Kdenlive site describing how to use it with a Windows machine is the same Windows work-around that some of the other Linux based apps tell how they can be used on a Windows box... by burning a copy of the Linux operating system to a DVD or running it from a Flash drive, and then running a Linux video app from that same DVD or Flash source... so you are just using a PC box to run Linux from a DVD or Flash drive so you don't have to install it on your hard drive, then you can run Kdenlive, 64 Studio or any of the other Linux apps that I mentioned before through Linux, not Windows.

Nevertheless, they still aren't Windows apps, they are Linux apps running on a Linux platform from a DVD or Flash drive.

In the last few minutes I got a return email about the free multi-track ZS4 Video Editor for Windows that I mentioned earlier from PapaJohn, Windows Movie Maker , a man and a website known as a long time expert resources for the Windows Movie Maker community... he wrote:

"...the ZS4 Video Editor is the new (2007 vintage) incarnation of the Zwei-Stein Video Editor, a 256 track video editor that I tried in Oct 2002... my testing showed it worked fine to create a wmv file."

So it appears that for a free multi-track video editor for Windows, the ZS4 Video Editor is the way to go.

Thanks,

digi
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18 Jul 2011   #6

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Your welcome digi!

I will admit that I do not have as much experience as you when it comes to working with video or audio files, but I have learned a lot from your thread.

It has been a pleasure making your acquaintance!

Anak

p.s. I have saved that PapaJohn link.
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19 Jul 2011   #7

Windows 7 ULT 32 bit
 
 

No problemo Anak... below are some links to my most recent movie making effort.

"AFTTISF - Part 5ive - Live in Technicolor"

24 gigabytes
575 files
1 movie
3 links

On YouTube in large screen HD...
http://www.youtube.com/watch_p​opup?v=Y3Ha4HtDwQ4&vq=hd720

On regular YouTube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=Y3Ha4HtDwQ4


On Vimeo.com...
http://www.vimeo.com/digidayfi​lms/afttisf5



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21 Jul 2011   #8

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digi came across this.....Lightworks
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21 Jul 2011   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by digiday View Post
All these others are for Linux... I know allot of the GNU software is written somewhat to spite Windows, so much of it isn't written for Windows, but is written for Linux and UNIX...
I do not believe that most of the Linux based open source applications are written to "spite" Windows. Many of these developers are simply working with open framework toolsets and such and most likely they aren't spending the $$'s to run Windows on their machines as they are trying to keep costs as low as possible and still run high quality software.
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21 Jul 2011   #10

Windows 7 ULT 32 bit
 
 

Hi anak and pparks1,

pparks1:
I made that statement about GNU software somewhat being written to spite Microsoft based on the big yellow ad on the right side of this GNU software description page at the link below that says, "Microsoft IS TRASHING YOUR FREEDOM"...
Free software for Windows - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

Then that yellow ad leads to windows7sins.org... I don't think I completely agree with those ideas. After all, people like the nice software that Microsoft makes for the main part and MS wouldn't be so popular unless they were constantly trying to improve their software. All the people that work for MS have to make a living... and everything can't be free. But the GNU software is nice too.

And anak:
Lightworks looks really nice and I was going to give it a try even though I already use Adobe Premiere for multi-track video editing, but a friend who beta tested that version of Lightworks said it was more oriented toward the professional market. He also said that the required codec pack that was linked on the Lightworks download page, "Matrox VFW" codecs, messed-up his system, i.e. caused conflicts with his existing codecs that were already on his machine, so he ended up purging his computer of Lightworks.

I figure that since Lightworks is free, but very advanced in nature, that the dollars that Lightworks' creators will make will be from the upgrades and plug-ins that they will be selling in the future, based on what the "Store" page on their website says.

I'm sure that the Lightworks app (not the codecs pack) is very good, but it appears to be even more difficult than Adobe Premiere to learn, not that Premiere was that difficult.

Codec packs are a whole other can of worms that is so complicated with respect to which kind of files can be created and understood by various video software incarnations that one needs a doctorate degree in codecs to completely understand them. Codecs are also notorious for causing system problems when they conflict.

I think I'll stick with Premiere for myself and recommend the ZS4 Video Editor for Windows to anyone who needs a free, multi-track video editor...
About | t@b ZS4 Free Video Editing Software
http://www.softspecialist.com/ZS4-Vi...deo-Editor.htm

Thanks for thinking of me and it has been nice hearing from you again, no matter the topic.

digi
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