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Windows 7: Let's talk about a new Windows Optimizer


27 Nov 2011   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 
Let's talk about a new Windows Optimizer

I've used many Windows Optimizer, such as Iobit Advanced System Care, Tuneup Utilities, SpeedUpMyPC, PCKeeper..... and I recently came across another newly released software: Toolwiz Care Still testing it...
So many Optimizer in the world,making me confused. Which one are u currently using?
Give me some advice, Thank you.

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27 Nov 2011   #2

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

None. Windows Seven manages itself very well. I only use CCleaner to remove temp files and such. I don't trust many "Optimizers". They can, and often will bork your system. Seven isn't XP which needed so much help to run well. Just my opinion. A Guy
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27 Nov 2011   #3

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

You don't need any such 'System Optimizers' at all
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Windows is a closed source system. Developers of tuneup utilities and registry cleaners do not have the core code of Win 7 and are not working on definitive information, but rather they are going on past knowledge and experience, most of which is not applicable to Win 7. Automatic cleaners will usually have to do some guesswork.

There is almost no tweaking that can be done to Win 7 to speed it up. The system is designed to diagnose itself and take care of itself which it does remarkably well. Win 7 maintains itself and that includes the registry.

System Optimizers are pure snake oil. At best they do nothing except use resources. At worst, they can mess your system up, slowing it down, and even crash it. There is no utility out there anywhere that can speed Win 7 up and improve its performance, at least not at this time.

Modifying registry keys incorrectly can cause Windows instability, or make Windows unbootable. No registry cleaner is completely safe and the potential is ever present to cause more problems than they claim to fix.

Registry cleaners cannot distinguish between good and bad. If you run a registry cleaner, it will delete all those keys which are obsolete and sitting idle; but in reality, those keys may well be needed by some programs or windows at a later time.

Windows 7 is much more efficient at managing the registry than previous Windows versions. Even if you use the CCleaner registry to delete keys left over when uninstalling programs, these few keys will not make 1 millisecond's difference in performance. If you run CCleaner or any other registry cleaner and do not know precisely what you are doing, you will have problems down the road. There are no gains to be had from using a registry cleaner and the risk is great.

Forget all the "wisdom" you learned about XP. Windows 7 is not XP and does not manage the registry the same as XP.

This isn't to say that the system does not need to be maintained. Uninstall programs that you don't use, delete unneeded and unnecessary files. Defrag your hard drive. But don't screw with the registry unless you are an in depth expert in the Win 7 registry.

Most of the time, the cure is a clean install. Using a program such as Ccleaner is fine to get rid of old and unnecessary files. A tuneup utility is not only unneeded, it can actually harm your system. Don't use them.
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27 Nov 2011   #4

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by yowanvista View Post
you don't need any such 'system optimizers' at all
Quote:
windows is a closed source system. Developers of tuneup utilities and registry cleaners do not have the core code of win 7 and are not working on definitive information, but rather they are going on past knowledge and experience, most of which is not applicable to win 7. Automatic cleaners will usually have to do some guesswork.

There is almost no tweaking that can be done to win 7 to speed it up. The system is designed to diagnose itself and take care of itself which it does remarkably well. Win 7 maintains itself and that includes the registry.

System optimizers are pure snake oil. At best they do nothing except use resources. At worst, they can mess your system up, slowing it down, and even crash it. There is no utility out there anywhere that can speed win 7 up and improve its performance, at least not at this time.

Modifying registry keys incorrectly can cause windows instability, or make windows unbootable. No registry cleaner is completely safe and the potential is ever present to cause more problems than they claim to fix.

Registry cleaners cannot distinguish between good and bad. If you run a registry cleaner, it will delete all those keys which are obsolete and sitting idle; but in reality, those keys may well be needed by some programs or windows at a later time.

Windows 7 is much more efficient at managing the registry than previous windows versions. Even if you use the ccleaner registry to delete keys left over when uninstalling programs, these few keys will not make 1 millisecond's difference in performance. If you run ccleaner or any other registry cleaner and do not know precisely what you are doing, you will have problems down the road. There are no gains to be had from using a registry cleaner and the risk is great.

Forget all the "wisdom" you learned about xp. Windows 7 is not xp and does not manage the registry the same as xp.

This isn't to say that the system does not need to be maintained. Uninstall programs that you don't use, delete unneeded and unnecessary files. Defrag your hard drive. But don't screw with the registry unless you are an in depth expert in the win 7 registry.

Most of the time, the cure is a clean install. Using a program such as ccleaner is fine to get rid of old and unnecessary files. A tuneup utility is not only unneeded, it can actually harm your system. Don't use them.
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27 Nov 2011   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
None. Windows Seven manages itself very well. I only use CCleaner to remove temp files and such. I don't trust many "Optimizers". They can, and often will bork your system. Seven isn't XP which needed so much help to run well. Just my opinion. A Guy
I understand what u mean. once I used the Deep Scan of Iobit ASC, it broke my Windows 7. While the quick Scan does nothing harm. So, if I use these sort of Windows Optimizers, I would never use their 'Deep Scan','Deep Optimize', sort of things.
'Deep' might means breaking the core of Windows system, I think

One thing I want to talk about is, i use the Start up Booster in Toolwiz care, and the boot time shortened, 40 seconds now, compared to 1.5 minutes before. Maybe this is one thing such Windows Optimizer could do for us Make our PC boot faster.
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27 Nov 2011   #6

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Jeriff

Just removing start-up entries from msconfig should speed up your boot time without the use of third party optimisers and a good defrag of the drive will help also. Windows 7 comes as lean as a user would want and is balanced perfectly. Just use the inbuilt tools that are already at your disposal and you wont go far wrong.

Danny
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27 Nov 2011   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx View Post
Jeriff

Just removing start-up entries from msconfig should speed up your boot time without the use of third party optimisers and a good defrag of the drive will help also. Windows 7 comes as lean as a user would want and is balanced perfectly. Just use the inbuilt tools that are already at your disposal and you wont go far wrong.

Danny
Yeah, i knew the msconfig method, but the startup manager in toolwiz care even allows me to delay a certain entry. I like this function very much. I delayed MSE,NOD 32 and tweetdeck, so the boost period becomes shorter, while they can also autostart after a short time. Maybe I am a little lazy, i don't want to double-click on their icons on desktop. Delayed auto-start fits me well.


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27 Nov 2011   #8

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Like I say Jeriff each to there own when it comes to third party tools like that. Personally I've just never found the need in windows 7. All you have mentioned above can be done with task scheduler also which is native to 7. I'm not sure I would ever delay the start of my security software though just to gain a few seconds in boot speed as you could find yourself connected to the internet with no protection.
I think it was "Take that" who sung "It only takes a minute"

Danny
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27 Nov 2011   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx View Post
Like I say Jeriff each to there own when it comes to third party tools like that. Personally I've just never found the need in windows 7. All you have mentioned above can be done with task scheduler also which is native to 7. I'm not sure I would ever delay the start of my security software though just to gain a few seconds in boot speed as you could find yourself connected to the internet with no protection.
I think it was "Take that" who sung "It only takes a minute"

Danny
maybe you are right, 1 minute is no problem. Better keep the anti-virus software auto-start....

Well, i'm still testing this new optimizer. I am always trying various software.
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27 Nov 2011   #10

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jeriff View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx View Post
Like I say Jeriff each to there own when it comes to third party tools like that. Personally I've just never found the need in windows 7. All you have mentioned above can be done with task scheduler also which is native to 7. I'm not sure I would ever delay the start of my security software though just to gain a few seconds in boot speed as you could find yourself connected to the internet with no protection.
I think it was "Take that" who sung "It only takes a minute"

Danny
maybe you are right, 1 minute is no problem. Better keep the anti-virus software auto-start....

Well, i'm still testing this new optimizer. I am always trying various software.
I think thats a good decision 10 seconds extra boot time or a reinstall because of infection. I know what I would choose
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