| Windows 7: Let's talk about a new Windows Optimizer |
27 Nov 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit New York |
Let's talk about a new Windows Optimizer  I've used many Windows Optimizer, such as Iobit Advanced System Care, Tuneup Utilities, SpeedUpMyPC, PCKeeper..... and I recently came across another newly released software: Toolwiz Care Still testing it...
So many Optimizer in the world,making me confused. Which one are u currently using?
Give me some advice, Thank you. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit Graphics Card Nvidia Screen Resolution 1366*768 Internet Speed 8M |
27 Nov 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
None. Windows Seven manages itself very well. I only use CCleaner to remove temp files and such. I don't trust many "Optimizers". They can, and often will bork your system. Seven isn't XP which needed so much help to run well. Just my opinion. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
27 Nov 2011
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#3 | | Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android Mauritius |
You don't need any such 'System Optimizers' at all Quote: Windows is a closed source system. Developers of tuneup utilities and registry cleaners do not have the core code of Win 7 and are not working on definitive information, but rather they are going on past knowledge and experience, most of which is not applicable to Win 7. Automatic cleaners will usually have to do some guesswork.
There is almost no tweaking that can be done to Win 7 to speed it up. The system is designed to diagnose itself and take care of itself which it does remarkably well. Win 7 maintains itself and that includes the registry.
System Optimizers are pure snake oil. At best they do nothing except use resources. At worst, they can mess your system up, slowing it down, and even crash it. There is no utility out there anywhere that can speed Win 7 up and improve its performance, at least not at this time.
Modifying registry keys incorrectly can cause Windows instability, or make Windows unbootable. No registry cleaner is completely safe and the potential is ever present to cause more problems than they claim to fix.
Registry cleaners cannot distinguish between good and bad. If you run a registry cleaner, it will delete all those keys which are obsolete and sitting idle; but in reality, those keys may well be needed by some programs or windows at a later time.
Windows 7 is much more efficient at managing the registry than previous Windows versions. Even if you use the CCleaner registry to delete keys left over when uninstalling programs, these few keys will not make 1 millisecond's difference in performance. If you run CCleaner or any other registry cleaner and do not know precisely what you are doing, you will have problems down the road. There are no gains to be had from using a registry cleaner and the risk is great.
Forget all the "wisdom" you learned about XP. Windows 7 is not XP and does not manage the registry the same as XP.
This isn't to say that the system does not need to be maintained. Uninstall programs that you don't use, delete unneeded and unnecessary files. Defrag your hard drive. But don't screw with the registry unless you are an in depth expert in the Win 7 registry.
Most of the time, the cure is a clean install. Using a program such as Ccleaner is fine to get rid of old and unnecessary files. A tuneup utility is not only unneeded, it can actually harm your system. Don't use them. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz Motherboard Asus Rampage formula LGA775 Memory 8GB DDR2 900Mhz Graphics Card Zotac GTX 460OC 2GB GDDR5/Asus EN9600GT 1GB DDR3 PhyX Sound Card Supreme FX2 Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22' Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Prolink keyboard Mouse Prolink optical mouse PSU Cooler Master GX 650W Cooling Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans Hard Drives 3X500GB hitachi, 2TB internal, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung Internet Speed 1MiB/s Other Info 5.1 System + 2.1 System |
27 Nov 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 England |

Quote: Originally Posted by yowanvista you don't need any such 'system optimizers' at all Quote: windows is a closed source system. Developers of tuneup utilities and registry cleaners do not have the core code of win 7 and are not working on definitive information, but rather they are going on past knowledge and experience, most of which is not applicable to win 7. Automatic cleaners will usually have to do some guesswork.
There is almost no tweaking that can be done to win 7 to speed it up. The system is designed to diagnose itself and take care of itself which it does remarkably well. Win 7 maintains itself and that includes the registry.
System optimizers are pure snake oil. At best they do nothing except use resources. At worst, they can mess your system up, slowing it down, and even crash it. There is no utility out there anywhere that can speed win 7 up and improve its performance, at least not at this time.
Modifying registry keys incorrectly can cause windows instability, or make windows unbootable. No registry cleaner is completely safe and the potential is ever present to cause more problems than they claim to fix.
Registry cleaners cannot distinguish between good and bad. If you run a registry cleaner, it will delete all those keys which are obsolete and sitting idle; but in reality, those keys may well be needed by some programs or windows at a later time.
Windows 7 is much more efficient at managing the registry than previous windows versions. Even if you use the ccleaner registry to delete keys left over when uninstalling programs, these few keys will not make 1 millisecond's difference in performance. If you run ccleaner or any other registry cleaner and do not know precisely what you are doing, you will have problems down the road. There are no gains to be had from using a registry cleaner and the risk is great.
Forget all the "wisdom" you learned about xp. Windows 7 is not xp and does not manage the registry the same as xp.
This isn't to say that the system does not need to be maintained. Uninstall programs that you don't use, delete unneeded and unnecessary files. Defrag your hard drive. But don't screw with the registry unless you are an in depth expert in the win 7 registry.
Most of the time, the cure is a clean install. Using a program such as ccleaner is fine to get rid of old and unnecessary files. A tuneup utility is not only unneeded, it can actually harm your system. Don't use them.  | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number acer aspire 5935g OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz Motherboard intel gm45/gm47 revision 07 Memory 3 gb ddr3 Graphics Card ati radeon hd4570/512mb Monitor(s) Displays lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat Screen Resolution 1366x768 Mouse Optical Hard Drives OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
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27 Nov 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit New York |

Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy None. Windows Seven manages itself very well. I only use CCleaner to remove temp files and such. I don't trust many "Optimizers". They can, and often will bork your system. Seven isn't XP which needed so much help to run well. Just my opinion. A Guy I understand what u mean. once I used the Deep Scan of Iobit ASC, it broke my Windows 7. While the quick Scan does nothing harm. So, if I use these sort of Windows Optimizers, I would never use their 'Deep Scan','Deep Optimize', sort of things.
'Deep' might means breaking the core of Windows system, I think
One thing I want to talk about is, i use the Start up Booster in Toolwiz care, and the boot time shortened, 40 seconds now, compared to 1.5 minutes before. Maybe this is one thing such Windows Optimizer could do for us  Make our PC boot faster. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit Graphics Card Nvidia Screen Resolution 1366*768 Internet Speed 8M |
27 Nov 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 England |
Jeriff
Just removing start-up entries from msconfig should speed up your boot time without the use of third party optimisers and a good defrag of the drive will help also. Windows 7 comes as lean as a user would want and is balanced perfectly. Just use the inbuilt tools that are already at your disposal and you wont go far wrong.
Danny | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number acer aspire 5935g OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz Motherboard intel gm45/gm47 revision 07 Memory 3 gb ddr3 Graphics Card ati radeon hd4570/512mb Monitor(s) Displays lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat Screen Resolution 1366x768 Mouse Optical Hard Drives OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
500gig external hdd Internet Speed 30Mbps Down/30Mbps Up |
27 Nov 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit New York |

Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Jeriff
Just removing start-up entries from msconfig should speed up your boot time without the use of third party optimisers and a good defrag of the drive will help also. Windows 7 comes as lean as a user would want and is balanced perfectly. Just use the inbuilt tools that are already at your disposal and you wont go far wrong.
Danny Yeah, i knew the msconfig method, but the startup manager in toolwiz care even allows me to delay a certain entry. I like this function very much. I delayed MSE,NOD 32 and tweetdeck, so the boost period becomes shorter, while they can also autostart after a short time. Maybe I am a little lazy, i don't want to double-click on their icons on desktop. Delayed auto-start fits me well. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit Graphics Card Nvidia Screen Resolution 1366*768 Internet Speed 8M |
27 Nov 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 England |
Like I say Jeriff each to there own when it comes to third party tools like that. Personally I've just never found the need in windows 7. All you have mentioned above can be done with task scheduler also which is native to 7. I'm not sure I would ever delay the start of my security software though just to gain a few seconds in boot speed as you could find yourself connected to the internet with no protection.
I think it was "Take that" who sung "It only takes a minute"
Danny | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number acer aspire 5935g OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz Motherboard intel gm45/gm47 revision 07 Memory 3 gb ddr3 Graphics Card ati radeon hd4570/512mb Monitor(s) Displays lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat Screen Resolution 1366x768 Mouse Optical Hard Drives OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
500gig external hdd Internet Speed 30Mbps Down/30Mbps Up |
27 Nov 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit New York |

Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Like I say Jeriff each to there own when it comes to third party tools like that. Personally I've just never found the need in windows 7. All you have mentioned above can be done with task scheduler also which is native to 7. I'm not sure I would ever delay the start of my security software though just to gain a few seconds in boot speed as you could find yourself connected to the internet with no protection.
I think it was "Take that" who sung "It only takes a minute"
Danny  maybe you are right, 1 minute is no problem. Better keep the anti-virus software auto-start....
Well, i'm still testing this new optimizer. I am always trying various software. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit Graphics Card Nvidia Screen Resolution 1366*768 Internet Speed 8M |
27 Nov 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jeriff 
Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Like I say Jeriff each to there own when it comes to third party tools like that. Personally I've just never found the need in windows 7. All you have mentioned above can be done with task scheduler also which is native to 7. I'm not sure I would ever delay the start of my security software though just to gain a few seconds in boot speed as you could find yourself connected to the internet with no protection.
I think it was "Take that" who sung "It only takes a minute"
Danny  maybe you are right, 1 minute is no problem. Better keep the anti-virus software auto-start....
Well, i'm still testing this new optimizer. I am always trying various software.  I think thats a good decision 10 seconds extra boot time or a reinstall because of infection. I know what I would choose | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number acer aspire 5935g OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz Motherboard intel gm45/gm47 revision 07 Memory 3 gb ddr3 Graphics Card ati radeon hd4570/512mb Monitor(s) Displays lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat Screen Resolution 1366x768 Mouse Optical Hard Drives OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
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