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02-10-2012
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#11 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by panais My temps,Q6600 2.40 I'm jealous of your cooling system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
02-10-2012
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by writhziden 
Quote: Originally Posted by panais My temps,Q6600 2.40 I'm jealous of your cooling system.  Thanks,i can do much better,now is little hot,the fans are not in max. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built by me. OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4 Memory 2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL Graphics Card XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1 Screen Resolution 1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video Keyboard Wireless Logitech LX710 Mouse Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700 PSU THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W Case A-Case Twin Engine BB Cooling 3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan Hard Drives C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 Internet Speed ADSL 12000 plus Other Info Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?
D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 |
02-10-2012
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#13 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by panais My temps,Q6600 2.40,compare,do you see anything different\strange?
Are those HWInfo temps, ranging from 11 to 17, below ambient and likely bogus? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
02-10-2012
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#14 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic 
Quote: Originally Posted by panais My temps,Q6600 2.40,compare,do you see anything different\strange?
Are those HWInfo temps, ranging from 11 to 17, below ambient and likely bogus? Yeah, I noticed that, too. Looks like HWINFO is not configured to work right with that system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
02-10-2012
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic 
Quote: Originally Posted by panais My temps,Q6600 2.40,compare,do you see anything different\strange?
Are those HWInfo temps, ranging from 11 to 17, below ambient and likely bogus? I dont trust HWInfo.
My system is always cold for a specific reason.
Even if i over-overclock i get low temperatures in all softwares.
But especially i trust my bios and my laser thermometer.
My system is stand alone open wide case in out 10C cold room and i added 3 powerful fans.
No wires in the case all the wires are outside in back side of the computer.
If you touch my computer now its freezing!
I control the pc in my room which is connected with hdmi-hdni,wireless keyboard mouse etc
I made a small break in the wall and i tranfer 10 usb cables here.
So,no computer,no noise,no nothing,just a big screen 1 little keyboard and a mouse.
Coretmp though for me was always right. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built by me. OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4 Memory 2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL Graphics Card XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1 Screen Resolution 1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video Keyboard Wireless Logitech LX710 Mouse Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700 PSU THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W Case A-Case Twin Engine BB Cooling 3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan Hard Drives C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 Internet Speed ADSL 12000 plus Other Info Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?
D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 |
02-10-2012
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#16 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by panais
My system is stand alone open wide in out 10C cold room and i added 3 powerful fans.
If you touch my computer now its freezing! Ah, the cool room might be part of why you have lower temperatures than I do. Hope you wear a jacket; 10 C is too cold for me. I also am unable to change my fan speeds for my CPU (why vendors feel the need to prevent us users from doing such things is beyond me). I can change my GPU fan speed, but that is hardly beneficial to the overall system. I am sure if I really looked into it, I could find a way to adjust my fan speeds. The system runs really well, so I guess I won't muck around with it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
02-10-2012
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by writhziden 
Quote: Originally Posted by panais
My system is stand alone open wide in out 10C cold room and i added 3 powerful fans.
If you touch my computer now its freezing! Ah, the cool room might be part of why you have lower temperatures than I do. Hope you wear a jacket; 10 C is too cold for me. I also am unable to change my fan speeds for my CPU (why vendors feel the need to prevent us users from doing such things is beyond me). I can change my GPU fan speed, but that is hardly beneficial to the overall system. I am sure if I really looked into it, I could find a way to adjust my fan speeds. The system runs really well, so I guess I won't muck around with it. Read again my last post. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built by me. OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4 Memory 2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL Graphics Card XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1 Screen Resolution 1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video Keyboard Wireless Logitech LX710 Mouse Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700 PSU THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W Case A-Case Twin Engine BB Cooling 3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan Hard Drives C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 Internet Speed ADSL 12000 plus Other Info Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?
D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 |
02-10-2012
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#18 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit |
Ah, I see. You have two rooms; one for the user and one for the computer. Nice system. Probably better for your electric/heating bill, too.
I did a little research, and it seems HP computers are basically impossible to tweak fan settings on. Good thing I am happy with how the system is running and do not feel the need to. The only part of it that bothers me is I bought the machine, so I feel I should have more control over how it functions. Ah well...
I'm going to mark this thread solved since my original question was answered. Looks like most of the sensor software works as it should and I was just misunderstanding what TCase and TJunction were. If I see any erroneous temperature values in the course of crashes and debugging, I will recommend one of the other pieces of software. RealTemp and Core Temp seem to be the most reliable for core temperatures IMO. I think HWINFO is useful for getting hardware specs and also GPU temperatures. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
02-11-2012
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#19 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 CP x64 |
This link is a long read but interesting information.
I did some researched on the info posted and found it to be accurate. core2duo and core2quad temperature guide Quote: Intel provides complete specifications for Tcase (CPU temperature), but only partial specifications for Tjunction (Core temperature), which has caused much confusion and debate in the overclocking community concerning test methods, temperature monitoring utilities and accuracy. The monitoring utilities provided by motherboard manufacturers monitor CPU temperature, while some popular freeware utilities monitor Core temperatures. The most accurate Core temperature monitoring utility available is Real Temp 2.7 - Real Temp - CPU temperature monitoring - which has several unique and innovative features, and is recommended for users interested in monitoring Core temperatures only. TjunctionMax (TJ Max) = the point at which thermal shutdown occurs, to prevent your CPU from melting. Quote: TCase is 71.4 C, so TJ Max should be 76.4 C Intel recommended max TCase is 71.4°C add 5°C so your Intel recommended TJ (CPU core) acceptable limit is 76.4°C.
Depending on your BIOS settings, the temps seem fairly high.
Are you using the EIST settings?
When was the last time you re-applied the CPU thermal paste?
Even if recently you should pull off the CPU cooler and check it, then re-apply thermal paste.
Last edited by Dave76; 02-11-2012 at 01:59 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~1.4 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 CP x64 CPU Intel Core i5-750 3.84GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P, SATA 6Gb/s USB 3, f14 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card XFX HD 5770 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio ALC889 Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Intel X25 M 120GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Internet Speed Dismal Other Info eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External USB WD 500GB |
02-11-2012
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#20 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76
Depending on your BIOS settings, the temps seem fairly high.
Are you using the EIST settings?
When was the last time you re-applied the CPU thermal paste?
Even if recently you should pull off the CPU cooler and check it, then re-apply thermal paste. I cannot make any changes to the BIOS settings for thermal monitoring/control or voltage control. It does not appear EIST is enabled. I could apply thermal paste, but I do not feel there is need to do so because the fans are not running at a high RPM when the CPU gets into the high 70s, so it appears the HP BIOS thermal control settings have a higher setting than 76-79 C, and the CPU is not in danger. I know that if the CPU gets above ~85 C, the fans kick in at a higher RPM because it sounds like a vacuum cleaner started up in my machine.
I think HP designed the system to run a little hotter so the fans are not running so loud as to annoy the customer. The system has been like this since I bought it, and I have never had any indication of overheating occurring other than when dust accumulated causing the fans to run fast more often. I have never had the system shut down to prevent damage due to heat issues.
After reading through the link, I am wondering if maybe the temperatures I am getting need to be offset to be more accurate. I will have to spend some time determining the calibration method used in the link and see if that helps.
Last edited by writhziden; 02-11-2012 at 10:40 AM..
Reason: EIST, Read the link.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
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