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Windows 7: Move an unmovable window?

26 Jun 2012   #11
Anak

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Miles I understood where you were going with your previous post.

Your right, your test would be a good one to find out if a window could be moved, and your last post explains why, when I tried to move, and set windows like Calculator, and Notepad with a third-party app to my preferred spot it failed.


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26 Jun 2012   #12
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

I gotcha'. Guess I'm just curious what's going on since I never heard of the app in question.
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26 Jun 2012   #13
datapod

Windows 10 Professional 64bit.
 
 

Alrighty For the sake of convention I will refer to my unmovable window as "The Program."

If I move the Task Bar to the top of the screen and then run The Program it opens in it's usual position with the top edge behind the Task Bar. (1st. image)


Interestingly if I run The Program first and then move the Task Bar to the top it pushes the *overlay* down the width of the Task Bar + pad but leaves the actual camera images in the same "stuck" location. (2nd. image) I don't think this helps me any but, it is the first time I've gotten any portion of the thing to move.

I did give MoveIt and WindowPad a shot at it. They don't even recognize the presence of a window.

I really think I'm going to try giving the thing it's own 15" monitor as soon as I get the gumption to drag one out and hook it up.

I really appreciate everybody's thoughts and input. You guys on this forum are the best of what *used* to make Usenet great. You know before the WWW? (Did I just date myself or what?)

Thanks again...

Doug


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26 Jun 2012   #14
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Yeah, it looks like the video output is hard wired to be at 0 0 no matter what. Dedicated monitor is likely the only option.

edit: Just for the hell of it you might try this other app I wrote TicClick

MoveIt ignores windows that don't have a resizeable border, since it resizes as well as moves. TicClick only moves. So it doesn't care if the border is resizeable or not. If it doesn't work it only takes a few seconds to delete the folder. It does not need to be installed. TicClick works on the active window. So it should work even if the window does not have a window title or caption bar. But if the video app has its own window routine that ignores WM_MOVE then there's nothing that can be done as far as I know.
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28 Jun 2012   #15
datapod

Windows 10 Professional 64bit.
 
 
The final option

Hooked up a second monitor and along with Display Fusion DisplayFusion: Multi-Monitor Taskbar, Multi-Monitor Screen Savers, HotKeys, Multi-Monitor Wallpaper, Windows Logon Changer and more... all is well.

In case it means anything I did give TickClick a try. None of the "grid" buttons did anything but the "mouse" button did move the window (the only thing that has so far) but, with very unpredictable results. Sometimes the images would move with the overlay. Sometimes just the overlay would move. Sometimes the images would appear "askew" in the overlay.

Anywho happy with the dedicated monitor and thanks to all for givin' it some grey cells.

Doug


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28 Jun 2012   #16
Anak

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That's good news, glad you could sort it out!

Doug, if you don't mind me asking. What is the Theme of the display on your main monitor, Astronomy?

A couple of the smaller images look to have orbital elements.
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29 Jun 2012   #17
datapod

Windows 10 Professional 64bit.
 
 

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29 Jun 2012   #18
Anak

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Thanks Doug.

I should of explained earlier that I have an interest in Astronomy, and associated programs. I have a 6" Bausch&Lomb reflector with motorized German equatorial mount.
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30 Jun 2012   #19
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

As a last resort you can try using
AutoHotkey_L

to set the Window "Style" and add a SysMenu style. That's the box in the upper left corner of a window that has the menu with a Move command. If the window is set to that style the Windows system default window procedure may react to WM_MOVE messages. It's a long shot. But that scripting language is great to have anyway. It's the best way to do hotkey Tray Icon type apps to customize your own stuff. There's plenty of easy stuff even a non-programmer can do to run a certain program or open a certain folder or some other action when you press a hotkey. Also you can mess with windows like setting Stay On Top attribute etc..

See the help file for WinSet command. That's the one where you can change the style and exstyle of windows that already exist.
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30 Jun 2012   #20
datapod

Windows 10 Professional 64bit.
 
 

Much appreciated Miles. I'll file that one away for future reference. Might come in handy.

I'm quite happy with my second monitor solution which BTW is now running off a generator from my backyard. Had storms roll through Central Ohio yesterday. Power out to 600,000. May be 5-7 days power company is saying and we're wayyyyyyyyy down on the priority list I'm sure.

Oh well C'est la vie.

D
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