| Windows 7: CCleaner Fail? |
03 Jul 2012
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| | Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |
CCleaner Fail? After fifteen years it looks like I may have finally double-confirmed a case of CCleaner messing up a program. So after insisting that others provide documentation for years here about claims that CCleaner can mess up your System, I am providing it myself:
My sister uses a program called Bayscribe to transcribe medical notes for hospitals from home. She has had an issue where it's audio component fails to start on two occasions after running CCleaner. Apparently it depends upon a temporary file to run which CCleaner empties. The result is it generates a message saying that a [temporary] file is no longer available to start the audio service. I saw this error message.
This is not the Registry cleaner component of CCleaner, but the Disk Cleaner. In order to miss the file one would have to deselect Temporary Files which is often the bulk of what it finds. I believe it found 4gb when when it last cleaned up her machine, just before this error occurred.
Apparently the issue has occurred twice, the second time after CCleaner was reinstalled due to forgetting about the issue. It is noteworthy to me because it represents the first time I've seen first hand a confirmed case of CCleaner removing a file that causes a program not to be able to run.
Her company tech support told her this is a known issue with CCleaner and to remove it.
Last edited by gregrocker; 03 Jul 2012 at 12:36 PM..
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03 Jul 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) 9,925 posts South Australia |
One failure only? But how many millions of good fixes on thousands upon thousands of applications Greg. Thats not a bad track record | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
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03 Jul 2012
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| | Windows 7 x64 Professional SP1 2,173 posts Geordieland, Tyne and Wear |
That's pretty sad that you had to discover it 1st hand, and for it to happen on a mission-critical (work related) system is even worse..
Isn't there a temporary workaround you can do to alleviate this problem until the maker of CCleaner fixes the issue?
Will identifying the files and sub folders required by the application in the temp folder and adding them to the Exclude section of the Options Tab on the sidebar resolve the issue? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL SXPS 1640 OS Windows 7 x64 Professional SP1 CPU Intel C2D T9550 2.66 GHz @ 2.793 GHz (Thanks ThrottleStop!!) Motherboard Intel PM45 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card ATI MOBILITY RADEON 4670 Sound Card CREATIVE XFI AUDIO NOTEBOOK Monitor(s) Displays 16.1 WLED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Built-in backlighted Keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless Mini Mouse PSU 90W Dell Power Brick Case Dell Chassis Cooling Coolermaster Cooling Pad Hard Drives Seagate ST9500420AS 500GB (465GiBi) 7200 RPM Drive
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03 Jul 2012
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| | Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |
Golden - I agree and often defend CCleaner by stating I've put it on installs representing countless thousands of uses without fail. And we have helped popularize it here exponentially. My own defenses against "hearsay" problems have been passionate - maybe too much so. This issue wasn't even with the Reg cleaner which is most at issue.
Surely this is a poorly written program that depends on a temporary file to run each time. Aren't temporary files meant to be cleaned out periodically without discernment?
Solar - Her tech support insists she uninstall CCleaner and don't seem to care what the file is/was. If this is their standard advice I wonder why CCleaner hasn't come across the issue yet for a major medical transcription program. Their previous thoroughness may be slipping, or they may depend more on us to report these things, as I've done. | My System Specs | | |
03 Jul 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) 9,925 posts South Australia |
Greg,
Did you drop them a ticket? HELP | BayScribe | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
03 Jul 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP 1 21,462 posts |
Greg we may think it otherwise that it is the issue of the program that it needs a temporary file to start the service ?
The inbuilt disk cleanup also wipes the temp out. What happens there if the cleaning is done by using the disk cleanup but not ccleaner ? If the program still fails to run ? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembled OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP 1 CPU Intel Core i3 2120 @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. H61M-DS2 DVI Memory Corsair 2GB x2 (Single-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz) Graphics Card 2047MB GeForce GTS 450 (ZOTAC International) Sound Card Onboard (Realtek High Definition Audio) Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2040T Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard Logitech MK220 Mouse Logitech MK220 PSU uMAX 750 watt. Case iBall Cooling Air/ Fans Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB
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You of course checked to see if your audio service is on automatic? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HB OS W7x64 Ult. CPU i7 975 Motherboard P6T7 SC Memory 12GB Corsair Dom Graphics Card Evga GTX285 Sound Card OB Monitor(s) Displays HP LP2475 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU PC Power & Cooling 950 Case Chieftec Bravo Cooling Air 6 GentleTyphoon Hard Drives Velociraptors Raid0 BU
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| | Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |
It is an audio component of the Bayscribe program, what she runs to hear the notes she is transcribing. | My System Specs | | |
03 Jul 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 5,854 posts Philadelphia, PA |
I think Arc is on to something. Temp files can be cleaned out without any type of third-party app at all, so this sounds to me like BayScribe is just one very poorly written piece of software. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
03 Jul 2012
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| | Win7 x 6 PC's 36,547 posts California, Florida, Boston |

Quote: Originally Posted by Golden Greg,
Did you drop them a ticket? HELP | BayScribe LOL. I wanted to click Send on your screenshot!
I'll do that ,and attach a link to this thread so they can see the discussion about their program writing abilities in the top tech forum on the web. | My System Specs | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 AM. | |