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Windows 7: Installing MSI packages

29 Oct 2012   #11

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It looks like the installer is at least looking for the correct file on D: I think it's likely how you moved your user folder. I have not personally done that. Here is Brink's tute on that:

User Profile - Change Default Location

If you can run the installer from the root of D:, or C: for that matter, and select the installation directory, a workaround would be downloading, or moving the installer to a different location. I'll see if any of our resident smart people have any ideas

A Guy


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30 Oct 2012   #12

Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

What do the file security permissions look like for your D:\ drive?
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30 Oct 2012   #13

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Kevin: Check the security options on D:\User and D:\User\Kevin

Standard owner for C:\Users is Administrators
Standard owner for Yourname is System

You want to match what is standard to D:\Users

It might be easier for you to create a new user in the standard user location C:\Users and match those settings against your Profile on D: - make the new user the same type as Kevin (Admin or Std).

Once you have the new user - look at the security settings and match them on d:
Start at the top Profile folder Users - what does C:\Users have for permissions and who owns it, are the permissions inherited?
apply the same to d:\Users

then check the new user - same thing perms, owner, inherited
apply the same to d:\users\kevin

now check the files and sub-folders under the new user....
apply same to d:\users\kevin files and sub-folders

edit: of course the owner would be kevin, not the new user.... but you knew that - right

It's fairly easy if you have a template. Once your done, double check the settings and you can delete the new user.

Do the msi installs work under your profile on d: now?
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30 Oct 2012   #14

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

LuzTeTT: I type too slow..... or too much
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30 Oct 2012   #15

Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
LuzTeTT: I type too slow..... or too much
The fact that we posted at the exact same time makes me wonder whether I need to get out more or not. Your post didn't concern me as much.
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30 Oct 2012   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate x6
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
It looks like the installer is at least looking for the correct file on D: I think it's likely how you moved your user folder. I have not personally done that. Here is Brink's tute on that:

User Profile - Change Default Location

If you can run the installer from the root of D:, or C: for that matter, and select the installation directory, a workaround would be downloading, or moving the installer to a different location. I'll see if any of our resident smart people have any ideas

A Guy
That's not how I did it though. I followed the infamous guide of Sean at OCN for moving the default location of your personal folders. It's simply changong the directory of the defaul location pane under the properties of Downloads, My Documents, etc. folders. No need to edit registry or something.

EDIT: Here's the link for Sean's guide
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
Kevin: Check the security options on D:\User and D:\User\Kevin

Standard owner for C:\Users is Administrators
Standard owner for Yourname is System

You want to match what is standard to D:\Users

It might be easier for you to create a new user in the standard user location C:\Users and match those settings against your Profile on D: - make the new user the same type as Kevin (Admin or Std).

Once you have the new user - look at the security settings and match them on d:
Start at the top Profile folder Users - what does C:\Users have for permissions and who owns it, are the permissions inherited?
apply the same to d:\Users

then check the new user - same thing perms, owner, inherited
apply the same to d:\users\kevin

now check the files and sub-folders under the new user....
apply same to d:\users\kevin files and sub-folders

edit: of course the owner would be kevin, not the new user.... but you knew that - right

It's fairly easy if you have a template. Once your done, double check the settings and you can delete the new user.

Do the msi installs work under your profile on d: now?
I have to try this when I get home. Won't Windows do this automatically upon moving the defaul location of our personal folders?
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30 Oct 2012   #17

Windows 7 Ultimate x6
 
 

Here's the permissions for D:\Users folder:



And here's for the D:\Users\Kevin folder:



Anything wrong with them? I see that for all users, the settings for both are at Full Control.

Oh by the way, the MSI installer runs fine at D:\Users as well. But when I put it anywhere inside D:\Users\Kevin then there's the problem.
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30 Oct 2012   #18

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

D:\Users\Kevin has no security setting to allow Administrators or System access. give both full access

As I mentioned before a std user is set up with system being the owner. Try just adding System and Administrators to the Kevin folder. If it works great, if not, set System as owner on Kevin - "apply to this object only"
DO NOT apply to sub-folders and files - Kevin should still be the owner of everything under the Kevin folder.
Be careful and pay attention - if you change the owner of files and sub-folders under Kevin, you'll have to do more work to correct it.

I would still recommend creating a user to use as a security reference - that way you can look at how Windows sets security and match Kevin to that "template". It's what I do when trouble shooting. I ask "What does Windows do when...."

You don't need to keep the new user around - just use it as a reference for setting security.
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30 Oct 2012   #19

Windows 7 Ultimate x6
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
D:\Users\Kevin has no security setting to allow Administrators or System access. give both full access

As I mentioned before a std user is set up with system being the owner. Try just adding System and Administrators to the Kevin folder. If it works great, if not, set System as owner on Kevin - "apply to this object only"
DO NOT apply to sub-folders and files - Kevin should still be the owner of everything under the Kevin folder.
Be careful and pay attention - if you change the owner of files and sub-folders under Kevin, you'll have to do more work to correct it.

I would still recommend creating a user to use as a security reference - that way you can look at how Windows sets security and match Kevin to that "template". It's what I do when trouble shooting. I ask "What does Windows do when...."

You don't need to keep the new user around - just use it as a reference for setting security.
Right, got it. I'll do it this weekend Why doesn't Windows 7 do this automatically when the location of personal folders are moved?
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30 Oct 2012   #20

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

It depends on how you move them. It's been noted on sevenforums that using the location property to move personal folders presents issues - I think you discovered THE issue that causes other issues.

There are tutorials on changing user folder/files and changing user profiles - but I don't want to send you chasing a different course right now. Try what's been suggested and if there are still issues or new issues, I'll probably suggest reading the tutorial and following those instructions. But for now......

D:\Users\Kevin has no security setting to allow Administrators or System access. give both full access
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