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Windows 7: what do software developers benefit ?


19 Apr 2013   #1

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what do software developers benefit ?

we know many of programs or softwares , like Messenger , Explorer , Yahoo , Whatsup , Photoshop , Realplayer , antiviruses ... etc the list goes on .

as users we download them freely and use .. leave aside the paid softwares , there the matter is clear that the money you pay to get the software goes to the company .. but what about the very much number of free softwares ? what is the benefit ?

another question , who owns the internet over the world and who takes my monthly cost of connection ?

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19 Apr 2013   #2

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No one really owns the world wide Internet. This is much like the telephone system. There are international standards that govern it's use. Your monthly fee goes to your ISP and they use it to cover operating costs and the bandwidth used by subscribers.
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19 Apr 2013   #3

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Hi techno di,

People develop free software for a multitude of reasons. Some enjoy the challenge, some have made a tool for themselves that they chose to share with others, some are limited versions of paid software (just to give you a taster of the software, try before you buy essentially)... the list goes on!

No one owns the internet If you go to the highest level of the global networking system, you'll be looking at a Tier 1 network:

Tier 1 network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tom
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19 Apr 2013   #4

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Some software is free in exchange for information about what you're doing with the software.
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21 Apr 2013   #5

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tom982 View Post
Hi techno di,

People develop free software for a multitude of reasons. Some enjoy the challenge, some have made a tool for themselves that they chose to share with others, some are limited versions of paid software (just to give you a taster of the software, try before you buy essentially)... the list goes on!

No one owns the internet If you go to the highest level of the global networking system, you'll be looking at a Tier 1 network:

Tier 1 network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tom
thank you
but do you mean that all the famous softwares we use daily which we just download directly without any charges .. for example if rules of the forum allows to list , Real Player , Messenger , Mozilla and other explorers , Anti Viruses are for challange purposes or any other non profit purposes ?
so what is the benefit for the developer that his product is all over the world being used and he doesnt collect a penny against ? even his or her name is not known !

and if we switch to socila networks .. you say that the story is same ?
again if rules allow to list i will list for example Facebook , Twitter , Youtube ! are not the developers of such programes collecting something ? even imolicitly like that they will charge the ISPs on grounds that your customers do make use of our product ?
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21 Apr 2013   #6
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Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

While many software has no monetary payment, you and people who use it pay for it by giving your personal info which is sold for money. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, etc all do this. some downloads come with bundled software you may not know about which tracks you browsing, where you buy online, who you email contacts are etc. So in that sense, they are "free" at all.

There are some which I think are free such as CCleaner or AS SSD and other benchmark software. When you buy a program they have all of your personal info to complete the transaction.
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21 Apr 2013   #7

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by techno di View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tom982 View Post
Hi techno di,

People develop free software for a multitude of reasons. Some enjoy the challenge, some have made a tool for themselves that they chose to share with others, some are limited versions of paid software (just to give you a taster of the software, try before you buy essentially)... the list goes on!

No one owns the internet If you go to the highest level of the global networking system, you'll be looking at a Tier 1 network:

Tier 1 network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tom
thank you
but do you mean that all the famous softwares we use daily which we just download directly without any charges .. for example if rules of the forum allows to list , Real Player , Messenger , Mozilla and other explorers , Anti Viruses are for challange purposes or any other non profit purposes ?
so what is the benefit for the developer that his product is all over the world being used and he doesnt collect a penny against ? even his or her name is not known !

and if we switch to socila networks .. you say that the story is same ?
again if rules allow to list i will list for example Facebook , Twitter , Youtube ! are not the developers of such programes collecting something ? even imolicitly like that they will charge the ISPs on grounds that your customers do make use of our product ?
Yep, all of those

RealPlayer = Just a sample of RealPlayer Plus
Messenger (I assume Windows Live) = Just an extra for Windows, we pay for that already
Mozilla = Open source, people program because they enjoy doing so and want to share their work with the community
Anti Virus = They're all either open source, or stripped down versions of paid for software. With the exception of MSE, which, like Messenger, is part of Windows.

Social Networks is a completely different story, they earn so, so much money! Facebook recently announced $1.59bn in revenue, is that enough for you? Twitter is forecast to hit $1bn in revenue in 2014. Google (owners of YouTube) had $50bn in revenue last year.

Even if we don't pay for a service, it doesn't mean that they don't get money from us!

Tom
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21 Apr 2013   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Many also get income by means of posting advertising, either in their websites or in the program directly. MSN for example is flooded with ads and many downloads sites and home pages are too.
Some companies also choose to give free software, but charge for support. Some variations of Linux for enterprises for instance. Linux itself is open source, therefore, free, but you must pay if you want support or any custom modifications for it.
Programs licensed as "free for personal use" but not free for corporate usage act as a sort of advertising for its own product, as also do the some limited free versions of paid software.
And of course, you always have softwares that are developed without intention of earning money, simply for making something useful and giving it away for free, most times with developers voluntarily giving their spare time for the project.
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22 Apr 2013   #9

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Quote:
Yep, all of those

RealPlayer = Just a sample of RealPlayer Plus
Messenger (I assume Windows Live) = Just an extra for Windows, we pay for that already
Mozilla = Open source, people program because they enjoy doing so and want to share their work with the community
Anti Virus = They're all either open source, or stripped down versions of paid for software. With the exception of MSE, which, like Messenger, is part of Windows.

Social Networks is a completely different story, they earn so, so much money! Facebook recently announced $1.59bn in revenue, is that enough for you? Twitter is forecast to hit $1bn in revenue in 2014. Google (owners of YouTube) had $50bn in revenue last year.

Even if we don't pay for a service, it doesn't mean that they don't get money from us!

Tom
ok Realplayer and all windows-related softwares are pre-paid by us ... is the money we pay at the time of first installation till after say a year or 2 years- or maybe more because people may keep their systems well and away from all viruses- .. is that 'tiny amount ' with respect to the period i use my system say years .. is that amount a profit or considered a profit ? isnt it too little ?

secondly , i want to know where that profit of facebook and others come from .... personally they dont take sth from me .
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22 Apr 2013   #10

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
While many software has no monetary payment, you and people who use it pay for it by giving your personal info which is sold for money. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, etc all do this. some downloads come with bundled software you may not know about which tracks you browsing, where you buy online, who you email contacts are etc. So in that sense, they are "free" at all.

There are some which I think are free such as CCleaner or AS SSD and other benchmark software. When you buy a program they have all of your personal info to complete the transaction.
i want to understand the highlighted part ... could you explain me ?
thanks for your cooperation
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