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Windows 7: Running Windows Explorer from Windows 2000 under Windows 7

25 Apr 2014   #11
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
If you can seperate an Explorer out of a Win2000 .iso, you can try to slipstream it on a Windows 7 installation .iso and see what happens. But chances are extremely slim that this will really work.
Sorry but I do not understand why one should be messing with the installation ISOs.


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25 Apr 2014   #12
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I think you are dreaming. It is certainly not that we don't want to be helpful with your problem. But the structure of Windows and Windows 7 in particular does not lend itself to what you want to do.
Can you please cite the particular features odf the Win7 structure which do not allow this being done? I am asking this because I prevuously started the Explorer from Windows 95 under Windows 98, totally successfully (I got Win95 with all the hardware support of Win98, the only glitch being that the buttons looked somewhat more thick after the change, thicker than under either Win95 or Win98).
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25 Apr 2014   #13
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there

IF you run WIN2000 as a VM using VMware you can try a feature out called UNITY MODE (or at least in VMWARE). Then from the UNITY menu just copy the IE Icon (Create short cut ==>send to desktop)from Win2000 to your W7 desktop and then you can simply click on the icon and run it.

Not quite what you are after but as near to making no difference.

Cheers
jimbo
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25 Apr 2014   #14
techtitan100

Windows 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

Windows Explorer in Windows 7 is vetter than Windows 2000 and XP
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25 Apr 2014   #15
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there

IF you run WIN2000 as a VM using VMware you can try a feature out called UNITY MODE (or at least in VMWARE). Then from the UNITY menu just copy the IE Icon (Create short cut ==>send to desktop)from Win2000 to your W7 desktop and then you can simply click on the icon and run it.

Not quite what you are after but as near to making no difference.

Cheers
jimbo
I alreaedy sait, I am NOT interested in virtual machines. I want to manage files on MY computer, not on a virtual machine. And I want tyo remove the set of resident program I currently need to have running so to make the Explorer and the panel somewhat better.

Is it unclear? How many times ahould I rep[eat that I know than one CAN run a file manager under a virtual machine, but I do not need it?
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25 Apr 2014   #16
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by techtitan100 View Post
Windows Explorer in Windows 7 is vetter than Windows 2000 and XP
It is not better, it is TOTALLY unusable, brocken, buggy and unfinished.

- Impossible to remove the Navigation Bar, which takes 1/4 of the window (given that the similar panel in в Win 2000 would take twice less place and could be easily disabled). One can remove it only with Windows Style Editor, which is paid, and only for non-classical themes. And this makes the search unfunctional.
- Removing of the Command Bar is possible only Resource Hacker, and doing that you lose the ability to enable and disable the Navigation Pane (other than via Registry).
- The positions of the windows of Windows Explorer are no longer remembered. For it one needs to employ Shell Folder Fix always running (and even with it the windows appear first in wrong positions and get repositioned for about a second).
- When using Aero, there is no folder name and icon in the windows caption. Only keeping Shell Folder Fix running helps.
- The Explorer window cannot be made smaller than cerrtain size vertically.
- There is no frame arouns the file area of the Explorer window and other visual bugs (in the drop down list in the navbar there is no bottom border, and different styles of the pressed and unpressed button, in the search field the hint text is displayed on the white background irrespective of the badckground cvolor set in the theme etc)
- When using Aero, the Navbar, the taskbar and the menu do not respect the system font smoothing settings, always using grayscale (that is the worst thing) instead of ClearType. Disabling smoothing also does not work there.
- The file system tree is not usable, only running Classic Shell helps (and that does not matter because enebling the NavPane with Command Bar removed is impossible).
- When changing the folder view to the normal icons, they appear too large. It is impossible to set the default icon size for view mode switching.
- Ugly rectangular selection on the desktop (when using non-classical themes) and in the file manager (when using all themes)
- The shortcut icon is too huge compared to the dimensions of the file icons at standard size 32x32. One has to re-define the shortcut icon via registry.
- The file and folder icons are not shown when dragging them, only the mouse pointer.
- There is no classical Start Menu, one has to keep Classic Shell running.
- In the corner of the screen there is an ugly button "Show the desktop", which takes space and cannot be removed. Only keeping running 7 Taskbar Tweaker helps.
- The distance between icons in the system tray is too large, which takes taskbar space. Only keeping running 7 Taskbar Tweaker (and properly settging up it via registry) helps.
- The space for the clock is calculated wrongly, to include the seconds. This takes the additional space, only 7 Taskbar Tweaker helps.
- On the right click on the taskbar buttons something uncomprehensible appears instead of the context menu, only 7 Taskbar Tweaker helps.
- On the taskbar there is idiotic button groupping that cannot be disabled other than keeping 7 Taskbar Tweaker running.
- When using maximize/restore animations in the Classic theme, on the taskbar buttons often appear artefacts.
- The ugly Language Bar makes the taskbar thick and takes much of space, so one has use a third-party indicator, such as Punto Switcher or Ruslat95 (which I use).

- Add to the above that it is impossible to access the search field without resizing the window. In Win95 the menu would be continued on the next line, in Win98 you could access the invisible entries through a drop-down list (which is worse, but still a solution). In Win7 they just screwed any possibility to do so.
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26 Apr 2014   #17
3D Jed

Windows 7 pro x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anixx View Post
- The Explorer window cannot be made smaller than cerrtain size vertically.
The smallest vertical size I can get explorer is 244 pixels. How small do you want it ? Are you trying to run Windows 7 on a phone ?

Running Windows Explorer from Windows 2000 under Windows 7-explorer_min.jpg


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26 Apr 2014   #18
techtitan100

Windows 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

well how mamy times do we have to tell you Windows 2000 is unsupported and you can get many viruses, you need to come into the year 2014 and use current technology not something that was made back in 2000
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26 Apr 2014   #19
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by techtitan100 View Post
well how mamy times do we have to tell you Windows 2000 is unsupported and you can get many viruses, you need to come into the year 2014 and use current technology not something that was made back in 2000
Well I do not have anything against current technology, unfortunately the Win7 Explorer makes using the current technology of Win7 a constant pain. That's why I am asking for a way to launch the Explorer from Win2000 under Win7. Otherwise I would already use Win2000.
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26 Apr 2014   #20
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

@Anixx

Windows explorer is more then usable for many people on windows 7. Some people do not like change.
Unfortunately that is life.

I suggest the following:

1.) Please Calm down a little, we are trying to help. No reason to be rude or angry.
2.) look at these alternatives to windows explorer: 3 Stable Alternatives to Windows Explorer
3.) If you decide you do not like windows 7 file structure, even after using a different program to manage your files, by all means go back to windows 2000. No one is stopping you.

There are many people out there who run dedicated support forums for windows 98 and windows 2000. Some have even released unofficial service packs to update them to run modern software.
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