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Windows 7: Running Windows Explorer from Windows 2000 under Windows 7

26 Apr 2014   #31
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I have already explained why modern software is unlikely to run under a Windows 2000 shell.

I don't wish to discuss this further.


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26 Apr 2014   #32
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Does software "run under shell" at all?
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26 Apr 2014   #33
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

By the way, one can run the file manager from Windows 3.1 under Windows 8:

File Manager under Windows Windows 8, Windows 7, Vista and Windows Server

Pitty that it is not possible for a later one.
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27 Apr 2014   #34
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Well I managed to run Explorer.exe from Windows XP in the taskbar mode under Windows 7.

The start menu is buggy: the left part is black and "all programs" does not open. If to switch to the "Classic" mode, the start button does not work at all. Possibly this can be fixed by also replacing the shell32.dll.

Still looking for a way to run it in the file manager mode.
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27 Apr 2014   #35
techtitan100

Windows 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

why don't you just go back to the regular Windows 7 start menu, Windows XP is not supported and we told you it would not work properly, who knows maybe while trying to do this stuff you will mess up your machine abd then learn your lesson qbout messing with components in explorer
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27 Apr 2014   #36
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by techtitan100 View Post
why don't you just go back to the regular Windows 7 start menu, Windows XP is not supported and we told you it would not work properly, who knows maybe while trying to do this stuff you will mess up your machine abd then learn your lesson qbout messing with components in explorer
I want to run the Explorer as a file manager. In the taskbar role the explorer from Win7 (with Classic Shell and 7 Taskbar Tweaker) is more or less satisfactory. But as a file manager I failed to achieve satisfactory results even with massive tweaking and hacking.
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27 Apr 2014   #37
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Yet under Windows 8 using Explorer from Win XP may become necessary, because after using utilities that restore Classic look, Win8 taskbar looks wrong:


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27 Apr 2014   #38
Anixx

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by techtitan100 View Post
who knows maybe while trying to do this stuff you will mess up your machine abd then learn your lesson qbout messing with components in explorer
Well in that case my system will become impossible to use, just as it is now, with this invalid so-called "Explorer". So I do not lose anything in any case.
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27 Apr 2014   #39
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Have you tried any flavors of Linux? You might like that better then windows. For any windows specific software you want to use, they have a program called wine that can emulate windows software.

Some distros I think you might like:

http://zorin-os.com/

http://www.ubuntu.com/

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=xubuntu
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27 Apr 2014   #40
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My 2 cents here, I mostly agree that Explorer from Win7 has been severely crippled, and the one from XP is vastly superior in many aspects, for both explorer and taskbar/desktop.

But I don't think that trying to run the XP explorer.exe is going to be a good direction. It has been designed to be very OS-dependant, probably calling undocumented features all over the place (your ntdll call and the new "listview" DirectUI control in Win7 being examples of that) so that they would be difficult to run on older/newer versions. It has been just built so tightly-coupled to the OS that migrating it is difficult.

My personal solution to this are Classic Shell and 7 Taskbar Tweaker, both of those replace and fix fundamental features removed/crippled. I know using external programs is not ideal, but I don't mind them as long as they do a good job, and looking at their footprint they don't seem to cause and harm (2MB memory combined and almost no CPU usage). Combine with a few registry hacks to remove the useless libraries, disable full row selection and I now have a pretty functional explorer, running the native Win7 one.

Even if you manage to run older explorer versions on 7, there is no reason to suppose that programs will immediately have problems. Remember that by doing that, you're replacing the shell only, while still running on the whole Win7 kernel. We may argue about programs that tamper with the shell (extensions and the like) but all others, at least from the beginning, we don't have any reason to think they'll break.
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