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Windows 7: A Java "fix"

13 Oct 2014   #1
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 
A Java "fix"

Came across this for getting rid of some bloat that downloads with Java updates - if you use Java.
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13 Oct 2014   #2
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I know a better way to avoid bloatware from Java updates: don't use Java. Java has had so many security issues the past few years, most people are better off without it.
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13 Oct 2014   #3
Tookeri

Windows 7 Pro 32
 
 

It's a good advice if you use Java. But I agree with the lady.

PS. I'm a Java Developer, but I would never install Java on any of my private computers
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13 Oct 2014   #4
Arelem

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Unfortunately, due to the glacial speed and being 10 years behind the curve state of most governmental agencies. Java is a curse that a lot of places are stuck with having to use it.
My last job was at a hospital (11/13) and Java was a constant pain in the tookas. Many sites that they had to enter data for Medicare and Medicaid reporting, so they would get paid, used Java for the entry screens. One application that the lab had to use, for certification maintenance, required a version of Java that was 2 revisions old.
I complained several times about the security problems and how they expose patient data, a >>>MAJOR<<< HIPAA no-no, but the best I ever got was "We are working on it." Yeah, they working on it for the last 3 years I worked at the hospital before it closed.
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14 Oct 2014   #5
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arelem View Post
Unfortunately, due to the glacial speed and being 10 years behind the curve state of most governmental agencies. Java is a curse that a lot of places are stuck with having to use it.
My last job was at a hospital (11/13) and Java was a constant pain in the tookas. Many sites that they had to enter data for Medicare and Medicaid reporting, so they would get paid, used Java for the entry screens. One application that the lab had to use, for certification maintenance, required a version of Java that was 2 revisions old.
I complained several times about the security problems and how they expose patient data, a >>>MAJOR<<< HIPAA no-no, but the best I ever got was "We are working on it." Yeah, they working on it for the last 3 years I worked at the hospital before it closed.
I am in the same situation I work in health and out computers were only put over to Windows 7 from XP in February this year!! They insist on staying with Java which means if I want to do any online training or getting my payroll details up I have to have Java on my main machine to do even that. I should add too that the machines at work are super slow and are always popping up the security is out of date so anyone who thinks I like Java is sadly wrong I posted what I did because at least it is something of some use if only very little.
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14 Oct 2014   #6
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

That's why I said "most people are better off without it." You all are correct about some people are stuck with it because of outdated software. I personally feel any software that depends on Java should be replaced but not everyone has a say in that in the workplace.

What amazes me is many banks still use Java based software for online banking. I would change banks in a heartbeat if mine did (actually, I use a credit union; I gave up on banks decades ago).
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14 Oct 2014   #7
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yes well a bit OT but you wouldn't catch me within a heartbeat of any bank I use credit unions and have down for as long as I care to think about.
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15 Oct 2014   #8
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

If you stick to the OFFICIAL Java download, it will come out clean. Like every other program, the only safe place to get it is the official developer website, and like always, you must use the offline installer (ie, the full installation package on your computer) to get the most virus-free install possible. When something else bundles software, I don't like to have it installing in my computer. And again like always, stay away from automatic updates, that you can't verify before run.

Simply not installing Java is not a realistic solution. Skip until something needs it is fine, but once a program you want uses it, you must have it, or get rid of the software, there is no other alternative.
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