| Windows 7: Running old 16 bit on a 64 bit computer |
04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 ultimate 64 1 posts |
Running old 16 bit on a 64 bit computer I am in the process of upgrading my dads computer to windows 7 ultimate 64 and he wants all of his old software back on his newly upgraded computer but most of his old software was built for windows 95,98,2000 witch weans it is 16 bit and are not compatible with his computer...what can I do? is there a compatibility software, or a common workaround that I can use?
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04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 2,055 posts The Wild West |
From what I have read you cannot run 16 bit on a 64 bit OS. 32 will still handle it but not 64.
There may be a workaround but I don't know of one. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 558 posts Cambridge, UK |
The only way i know of is,
If the program installs fine, run it.
If the program wont install, then it wont work at all.
If the program starts and you still have problems then use Windows Compatibility.
Right click the .exe icon of the program not working (Or go through My Computer - C:\\ Drive - Programs ( Programs x86 if you are using x64 bit version of windows) and then look through the list of folders for the software manufacturer or the name of the program not working - enter that folder - then look for the .exe icon) - properties - compatibility mode.
Tick the top one next to windows xp sp2, click the drop menu and choose 95.
Keep trying all versions till you have success, if nothing helps then it just plain wont work on the OS.
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04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 933 posts Pittsburgh |
This would be where I would say try to use the Virtual XP mode for those older apps that you still want to run. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II 1090 3.2 six core Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD65 Memory 16 gig DDR3 Graphics Card MSI R6950 2gig Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays Acer 23inch led Screen Resolution 1900x1080 widescreen PSU CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W Case CoolMaster HAF 922 Cooling Box AMD Heatsink/Fan Hard Drives Seagate 1tb SATA6
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04 Nov 2009
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| | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 1,702 posts Fruitland, Idaho |
Get a copy of Virtual Box, or VM Ware Workstation, and set up a virtual machine. If you need help in setting up a VM go to the "Tutorials" Section here on the Forums; some great information there on setting up VMs.
Also since you are using the Ultimate version you can download and install the Win 7 version of Microsoft Virtual PC along with XPM (XP Mode). Again the Tutorials section will give you some great info on the subject. Good Luck.
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04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 21 posts IL |

Quote: Originally Posted by DarkXeno This would be where I would say try to use the Virtual XP mode for those older apps that you still want to run. This is definitely the OP's best bet, but I wanted to mention one other idea that has allowed me to run a few programs that use 16 bit installers when the application itself is 32 bit.
Simply install the program to a folder on the desktop of a Win XP machine, then copy the folder over to Program Files your Win 7 box and run it in compatibility mode from there.
Pretty frequently this does not work, but I've successfully done it with three programs in the past. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS K42Jr-A1 OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i5 430M 2.27 GHz Motherboard Intel HM55 Memory 4096MB DDR3 PC3-10700 Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 1GB DDR3 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio/Altec Lansing Monitor(s) Displays 14.1" LED Display Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery Hard Drives 500GB 7200RPM SATA |
04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 5,130 posts |
Could you list the software he wants? Maybe we can find updates or alternatives.
If they are dos programs then you could use DOSBox or as suggested above virtualisation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel E8400 3GHz Motherboard Intel DX48BT2 Memory Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd. Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 on two monitors Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve USB Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Thermaltake ToughPower 850w Case Thermaltake Armor Cooling Scythe Mugen II Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
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04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7, Linux 345 posts |
Emulation, emulation, emulation. 16bit was scrapped in any of the windows 64bit OS's. Infact, even in linux it's scrapped. You need an emulator of some sort to run 16bit.
zophar.net is a good start. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7, Linux CPU AMD Phemon II x2 3@3750 Motherboard ASRock M3A770DE Memory 1G Crucial 1666 Graphics Card 8800GT OC (custom OC) Sound Card Sound Blaster Live! (never changes!) Monitor(s) Displays Vivitron 22" Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech M-BZ15A Laser PSU 450w Case Unknown Cooling Custom Air cooled Hard Drives Western Digital 120G/160G SATA
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04 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 8,025 posts |
virtual machine for 16bit apps on a 64-bit OS. That's the way you do it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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05 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 32 bit 3,135 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by Curtains8 I am in the process of upgrading my dads computer to windows 7 ultimate 64 and he wants all of his old software back on his newly upgraded computer but most of his old software was built for windows 95,98,2000 witch weans it is 16 bit and are not compatible with his computer...what can I do? is there a compatibility software, or a common workaround that I can use?
Thank you I would ask him which he wants. A new 64 bit system, or run old programs. If he really wants to run old programs get him a Pentium III running Win98 if you can find one at a flea market.
Chances are if you set up some kind of virtual box he'll just keep blowing it up on you. If there's a ton of ram maybe you should go with 32 bit and just use the extra ram for ram disks and cache. Why create a 64 bit superstructure just to put a sandbox in? If he's really happier running the old stuff I'd stick with 32 bit. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center OS Windows 7 32 bit CPU AMD 5200+ dual core Memory 2 GB Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB Monitor(s) Displays CRT Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Mouse PS/2 Wheel Mouse Hard Drives 500 GB Sata internal :
SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives Other Info SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card. Running old 16 bit on a 64 bit computer problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:31 AM. | |